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Group Seeks to Eliminate Sodas in Schools

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  1. MicroBalrog

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    Group Seeks to Eliminate Sodas in Schools
    Mon Jan 5, 2:39 PM ET Add Health - AP to My Yahoo!


    By LINDSEY TANNER, AP Medical Writer

    CHICAGO - Soft drinks should be eliminated from schools to help tackle the nation's obesity epidemic and pediatricians should work with their local schools to ensure that children are offered healthful alternatives, the American Academy of Pediatrics Says.

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    • Policy Statement (American Academy of Pediatrics)


    In a new policy statement, the academy says doctors should contact superintendents and school board members and "emphasize the notion that every school in every district shares a responsibility for the nutritional health of its students."


    Some schools already limit contracts with vendors of soft drinks and fast foods, though the soft drink industry has fought efforts by some states to mandate such restrictions.


    While some schools rely on funds from vending machines to pay for student activities, the new policy says elementary and high schools should avoid such contracts, and that those with existing contracts should impose restrictions to avoid promoting overconsumption by kids.


    The policy appears in the January issue of Pediatrics, being published Monday.


    "The purpose of the statement is to give parents and superintendents and school board members and teachers, too, an awareness of the fact that they're playing a role in the current obesity crisis, and that they have measures at their disposal" to address it, said Dr. Robert D. Murray, the policy's lead author.


    About 15 percent of U.S. youngsters aged 6 to 19 are seriously overweight. That is nearly 9 million youths and triple the number in a similar assessment from 1980.


    Soft drinks are a common source of excess calories that can contribute to weight gain, and soft drink consumers at all ages have a higher daily calorie intake than nonconsumers, the academy's policy said. It cites data showing that 56 percent to 85 percent of school-age children consume at least one soft drink daily, most often sugared rather than diet sodas.


    The National Soft Drink Association, which represents most soft drink makers nationwide, said the new policy is misguided and goes too far.


    "Soft drinks can be a part of a balanced lifestyle and are a nice treat," said Jim Finkelstein, the association's executive director.


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    What :cuss:ing spoilsports!

    Here's a new term for the uplifters: killjoys.
     
  2. Hkmp5sd

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    Yet another example of someone other than a child's parents trying to raise the children.
     
  3. thefitzvh

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    growing obesity in america has nothing to do with availability of junk food. It has to do with the rampant lack of self control and amazing laziness of the american public


    James
     
  4. Andrew Rothman

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    I could swear we covered this exact topic less than a week ago, right here.

    Ah, yes, here it is.....
    http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=55832

    As I said there...
     
  5. Norton

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    I'm gonna have to go with MPayne on this one, folks. Aside from the obesity argument that the article poses, which I don't fully buy, this whole vending machine thing has ballooned into a major discipline and maintenance problem far beyond what most people understand.

    We have to have a person whose FULL TIME JOB is to prevent kids from getting to the vending machines when they aren't supposed to. Kids ask for passes to the restroom (which we MUST provide) and then make one of those "Family Circus" paths that just happens to go past the vending machines. If "vendo-cop" happens to be away, Junior scores a liter of Coke and sticks it in his coat pocket.

    Then, Junior proceeds to suck away on his drink during class and naturally leaves the bottle laying in the middle of the floor on his way out.

    Couple this with the spilled drinks that damage equipment, books, etc and all of the dpills int he halls and you have a major waste of resources.

    We use our vendo-land to finance our copying machines, but I bet we could recoup that money by eliminating the machines and the accompanying expenses.
     
  6. Kharn

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    Norton:
    My highschool (class of '00, Calvert High (down in, who'd have guessed, Calvert County)) had vending machines with timelocks, no sodas or junk food would come out of the machines before 2:30 or 3:00pm (I never used them myself, but it was really funny to laugh at all the kids that tried to stick their money in the machines during lunch, as the machines were on, but would just spit your money back out). That might be something for your school to look into.

    Kharn
     
  7. Norton

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    Our machines are supposed to be on during lunch, but the kids go down there from their classes.

    The admin. claims that it is impossible to put timers on them to only coincide with lunch and after school:scrutiny:

    Truth be know...they want them on as much as possible because they get their cut:mad:
     
  8. TarpleyG

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    The whole time I was going to school (primary) we didn't have any soda. By the time I got to high school, we had Hi-C and other "fruit" juices in a vending machine but no Coke, Pepsi, or any of those. On a related topic, we also had two different lunch offerings; hamburgers and fries everyday in one line and a regular, well-balanced meal in another line. I opted to eat the regular lunch every day but Friday but most kids ate burgers and fries every day.

    GT
     
  9. Obiwan

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    I saw it in the local paper this morning...

    The Dems in our fine state...in denial about being the minority party....

    Have 2-3 bills aimed at curbing snack foods in schools

    One was actually aimed at forcing schools to TURN OFF the snack/drink machines in Elementary and Middle schools during lunch hour.

    Now what exactly would they propose if;

    a. Kids brought the stuff to school IN their lunch (far cheaper as well)

    b. Kids bought the stuff during breaks and ate/drank it during lunch

    What a joke!
     
  10. Sean Smith

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    The fact of the matter is that we have a rather perverse situation where the school administrations are turning a buck by selling unhealthy food and drinks to the students. I don't see why there is so much whining about not having the schools actively push bad food on people's children. Note that this is an entirely different animal from the school banning "naughty food" or something.

    It is the difference between the school not actively doing wrong, versus the school forcing everyone to do its version of right.
     
  11. Bruce H

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    Well since they have pretty well eliminated education in schools why not sodas?
     
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    I agree with this.

    We need beer in the schools.
     
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    All I drank as a kid was A&W Cream Soda, Cactus Cooler and Coke.

    I'm barely heavy enough to give blood :banghead:
     
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    MicroBalrog
    They are doing it to lower obesity, which saves lives. How is this any different than you supporting Welfare to save lives? Frankly, in most nations a person is more likely to die of obesity than to die of starvation, so the soda action is more needed than Welfare.

    Mind you, I'm not supporting the ban on sodas. I'm just pointing out that your pick-and-choose approach to libertarian principles is showing.
    Uplifters also are called "supporters of Welfare."
     
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    What gets me is that they're giving Junior all the sugar and caffeine he wants, and then wondering why he's bouncing around the classroom, so then they wanna give him a bunch of meds?
     
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    Bingo, Bogie.

    When I went to school we had soda machines, but they were TIGHTLY controlled. No sodas for students during lunch. The machines would be opened up for after school.

    The difference is that today the schools are using the soda and snack machines as ways of generating additional revenue, and are signing sharing agreements with soda companies to make products available. It's no wonder that the machines are available to students virtually the entire time they're at the school.
     
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    Personally i object to ANY school taking money from children for anything that isnt related to their education. I mean thats pretty low trying to turn a buck from kids who are REQUIRED BY LAW to be in the building.
     
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    I'm for eliminating outside pressure groups from govt. schools and letting kids take personal responsibility for what they consume. Hi-C, milk and the other choices available to kids don't seem that much better than pop, if we're worried about obesity. Kids at my high school went across the street to get pop at the local C-store.
     
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    I wouldn't mind seeing pop machines banned from schools, but I would rather it be done at the local level, with input from the parents. As a parent, I can (and do) control what my child eats. Kids aren't known for their self-control. Does anyone here let their kids eat whatever they want?

    While I have control over what they eat at home, this control does not extend to school. I could limit my daughter to one can of pop a day, but she could have as much as she wanted once she got to school. I don't see this as parents giving up control of their children to the schools, I see it as taking back control. If I want my kid to have pop at school, I'll send it with them. I realize this won't work for older teenagers that could just drive to 7-11, but I am hoping to instill good eating habits by then.
     
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    Contracts with vendors are pretty lucrative. It usually involves more than just a cut from the money in the machine. The soda-producer pays additional money, for example, to be the only brand distributed. In my school, Pepsi has the contract. They also provided a new scoreboard for the stadium with the catch that they have advertising on it. The faculty vending machines work all the time. The ones for the kids are on some pretty sophisticated time locks and will only vend water and juice during regular school hours. In poor school districts, it is easy for administration to get "hooked" on having this revenue source. So they aren't likely to eliminate it.
     
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    Mpayne said...

    "Okay by me. Schools act in loco parentis, and have an obligation not to endanger kids' health. Any reasonable parent would limit junk food and promote healthy choices.

    Further, they're not banning the items. If students want to bring junk food from home, they can. The school just says, we're not going to be the ones to sell kids the junk food.

    I'm good with that."


    well said, I completely agree.
     
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    but...but......what about the coffee? And the Latte'....and espresso?

    What will the kids drinK!!!???!!


    NOOOOOOOOO!!!! Not...WATER!!!! AAAAGGGHHHHHH.....:neener:


    My kids' school serves nothing of the sort....no soda, junk food, etc.

    I guess that's what I get for $3500/year tuition. Gee, I can't wait til the second one goes there too. Y'all will be seeing all my guns up for sale real cheap:rolleyes:
     
  23. Obiwan

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    In simplest terms..........

    If we all agree that it is bad.....

    Then why do we need a law...

    You mean...GASP!!!....that the schools may not have the best interests of our children in mind??????:eek:
     
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    Actually not too far from the truth. Our halls look like some sort of town market before and after school. We got your doughnuts, coffee, pizza......who ever needs to eat at home?

    Anyway....have you ever taken a good look at a school water fountain:barf:
     
  25. greyhound

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    Good Lord, a lot has changed since I graduated in 1989. We had no sodas or vending machines, just school lunches and milk (though we did have the "hamburgers and fries every day" option as described by TarpleyG).

    And no, we didn't walk 10 miles uphill every day through 2 feet of snow!:D
     
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