Gun Ban Ruling Puts Fenty on the Spot

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Gun Ban Ruling Puts Fenty on the Spot
Going to High Court Would Be Risky

By Carol D. Leonnig
Washington Post Staff Writer
Thursday, May 17, 2007; Page B01

D.C. Mayor Adrian M. Fenty must make a risky choice about the District's gun ban: defend it before the Supreme Court or write new, looser laws governing how city residents can keep guns in their homes.

As he wades into a high-stakes debate over the Second Amendment, the new mayor of the nation's capital faces the possibility that the city could lose the case and undercut decades of hard-fought gun-control legislation across the country.

Gun-control advocates are quietly acknowledging that Fenty (D) is in a difficult spot. Across the country, many of them and their attorneys have been meeting in conference rooms to analyze the potential damage that could be done nationwide if the D.C. law falls apart. Some fear that an adverse Supreme Court ruling could lead to more gun lobby challenges and the collapse of tough gun regulations in New York, Chicago and Detroit. Other potential casualties include federal laws that require background checks for gun buyers or ban the manufacture of machine guns for civilian use.

"Making the right choice is going to be a very difficult decision," said Joshua Horwitz, executive director of the D.C. based Coalition to Stop Gun Violence. "Despite all the rhetoric about 'We're taking this all the way to the Supreme Court,' you have to really think this one through. Everyone is cognizant of the fact that this is probably the high-water mark for Second Amendment cases."

Fenty and the gun-control community have faced this dilemma since March 9, when a three-judge panel of the U.S. Court of Appeals for the D.C. Circuit struck down the D.C. law as unconstitutional. The decades-old law bars all handguns unless they were registered before 1976. The appeals court keyed on a section of the law that bars people from keeping handguns in homes but did not address provisions barring them from carrying guns outside their residences.

In the appeals court's view, the D.C. law is much too sweeping.

At issue is how to interpret the Second Amendment: "A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed."

The ruling marked the first time that a federal appeals court had struck down a gun regulation on the grounds that the amendment protects an individual's rights to bear arms. Other courts have found that it specifically protects the ability of states to maintain a militia.

Last week, the full D.C. Circuit refused to reconsider the city's arguments -- leaving the Supreme Court as the only place for the District to appeal.

Legal experts say gun-rights activists have a lot of advantages at this time in history and in this specific suit, Parker v. District of Columbia, filed in 2003 by six D.C. residents who said they wanted the right to own guns.

First, the District law is considered one of the most restrictive in the country, gun law experts say, and one of the more difficult to defend because of some seemingly illogical requirements. For example, one part of the law requires owners of registered guns, including shotguns, to disassemble them or use trigger locks -- basically rendering them useless in an emergency. The appellate panel singled out that provision as flawed.

Next, the belief that the Second Amendment protects individual gun rights has been gaining currency among conservative and liberal legal scholars.

And the Supreme Court has grown more conservative and, it appears, friendlier to the gun lobby's view of constitutional rights with the addition of Justice Samuel A. Alito Jr., who as a member of a lower court declared that the machine gun ban was unconstitutional.

Those factors help explain Fenty's uncharacteristic reluctance to take a firm stand at a news conference last week to discuss what happens next. Reporters wanted to know whether Fenty would petition the Supreme Court, which analysts say most certainly would take the case, or rewrite the regulations to target guns in a less restrictive way.

"It's a little early to say which way we're going to go," Fenty said at the news conference. "We will weigh everything."

Now that the full appeals court has declined to review the case, Fenty has 90 days to decide whether to petition the Supreme Court.

Other cities and states are closely tracking what happens. Leaders of several, including New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg (R) and Massachusetts Gov. Deval L. Patrick (D), declined to publicly comment on what they thought Fenty should do, or talk about their level of anxiety about the fate of their own laws.

Paul Helmke, president of the Brady Center to Prevent Gun Violence, was quite direct: "We're very concerned about this case because if it's allowed to stand, and if it becomes the law of the land, it places in jeopardy just about every other gun law you can think of."

But Helmke also said: "The D.C. law is an easy one to shoot at. Factually, it's a tougher one to get behind and defend. Background checks and assault weapons ban -- you can defend all day long. . . . Why is this the one we're going to be taking up to the Supremes?"

Helmke said he wouldn't advise the mayor to avoid the Supreme Court challenge. He said several gun-control experts worry just as much about the cases the gun lobby might be able to win if the city doesn't keep fighting.

But dire consequences are not expected by some legal experts, including Sanford Levinson, a noted constitutional scholar and liberal-leaning professor at the University of Texas who made news when he wrote that he, too, believed the Second Amendment protected individual rights to bear arms.

Levinson said the D.C. Circuit opinion "went out of its way" to stress that reasonable regulations, such as registration for owners and screening for criminals, were appropriate. He said he doubts the current Supreme Court would go further than that to affirm that demand for reasonable restrictions.

"The court seemed to say, 'Look, you need to come up with a better reason than D.C. did,' " Levinson said.

Robert A. Levy, the lawyer who spearheaded the D.C. residents' challenge in the Parker case, said Fenty has a duty to the people of the city and should not be making tactical decisions to outmaneuver gun-rights groups in the courts. "Their obligation is not to engage in strategic lawyering," Levy said.

Fenty said he will make his decision with the safety of D.C. residents "foremost" in his calculus.

"The residents of the District of Columbia expect us to fight aggressively to make our laws as strong as possible," Fenty said. "We ultimately believe we will prevail."

Staff researchers Meg Smith and Julie Tate contributed to this report.
 
Maybe we should flood Fenty's office with pleas that he appeal the case to the Supreme Court? ;)

Kharn
 
On the defensive where they should have been but for the NRA's "surrender before the fight" policy, e.g. FOPA, VCCA of '94, Lautenberg Amendment, Columbine meetings cancellation, NRA Executive refusal to seek recourse in federal courts, inter alia.

Best defense is a good offense.
 
Seems like they're starting to get into a "the sky is falling!" mentality, I like it!
 
El Tejon:
On the defensive where they should have been but for the NRA's "surrender before the fight" policy, e.g. FOPA,
Aw geez, not this stuff again. :banghead: The NRA's position was that the '86 ban was so blatently unconstitutional that it would be overturned within 6 months.

Kharn
 
It's the exact place where a person would need a CCW, these dolts are always targeting the law abiding citizen. Why don't they just enact better laws, because the one they have are not doing the job they intended.
 
"The residents of the District of Columbia expect us to fight aggressively to make our laws as strong as possible," Fenty said.

Well, except for at least the six residents that sued your ass, Fenty. :D
 
On the defensive where they should have been but for the NRA's "surrender before the fight" policy, e.g. FOPA, VCCA of '94, Lautenberg Amendment, Columbine meetings cancellation, NRA Executive refusal to seek recourse in federal courts, inter alia.

If my understanding is correct, citing the Lautenberg amendment is unfair. It was added in conference without fanfare.
 
I hope it's appealed.

That said, if they don't, I hope someone goes after the 86 machine gun ban, in the DC court, they'd probably overturn that, seeing as how it's exactly like the DC handgun ban. That, I suspect, would definately go to the Supreme Court if it happened, no question the gun control people would be going nuts over that one.

But let's see if this goes to the court, if it does and there's a favorable ruling for the second, it'll be a nice start...
 
Gun-control advocates are quietly acknowledging that Fenty (D) is in a difficult spot. Across the country, many of them and their attorneys have been meeting in conference rooms to analyze the potential damage that could be done nationwide if the D.C. law falls apart. Some fear that an adverse Supreme Court ruling could lead to more gun lobby challenges and the collapse of tough gun regulations in New York, Chicago and Detroit.


This statement is basically the gun-control lobby's admission that they have violated the Constitution.

They should have written "Hey, if we take this to the Supreme Court, they are likely to VERBALIZE that we are breaking the law. If we don't bring it to them, it will not get verbalized."


--John
 
You mean the NRA did not take the lead in Parker?:confused:

Why is that? One would think an organization soooo committed to our RKBA would be a leader in using the federal courts to protect our civil rights just like the NAACP? Anyone know why it was Cato Institute and not the NRA?
 
El Tejon,
In fact as the lawsuit progressed, the Cato lawyers asked the NRA to butt out and stop meddling as the NRA's agenda would have seriously weakened the case.
 
NRA had 3 concerns as far as I can tell:
1) didnt feel they had an assured 5 votes regardless of anything else. They also didn't share Cato's assessment that the court would change by the time the case got there. IMO Cato was mostly right. We have since gotten Alito and Roberts. Still not an ironclad guaranteed win, but very close.
2) didnt feel that gura was an experienced enough appellate advocate. Of course the caveat here is that I was told this by one of their experienced appellete advocates so there might be some professional rivalry there. He was the guy in charge of Seegars v Ashcroft.
3) Cato would get credit for winning the biggest 2nd amendment case in a century while the NRA would be perceived to have sat on its hands and missed the bus. This would be a victory for gun owners but a "loss" for the NRA.

So they made a weaker case (seegars) and tried to join them to Parker from getting up to the supreme court. This case failed. Since then, they have come around to seeing that this case actually has a decent chance of success thanks to alito and roberts joining the court. They also see that if it goes before the supreme court it will become a huge election issue due to timing. The NRA probably has visions of attack ads dancing in their heads already. Even if the case loses, the NRA sees that they can get a lot of mileage out of it.

IMO basically Cato took a risk and it paid off. NRA has been burned too many times by rushed cases and cases prosecuted by weak attornies (Silviera) so they wisely didnt chance it.
 
And this case really highlights the difficult position we have put the anti-gunners in. Do you guys realize how awesome it is that the Brady's can't have a gun-related supreme court case fall near an election? How much popular sentiment that speaks to?

The are only thriving so far as they avoid elections and courtrooms. The anti-gunners are quickly becoming nothing more than an unpopular interest group with a lobbying presence on capitol hill. The anti-gunners may have as much money as the NRA, but the NRA has won the hearts and minds of the american people. A fat pile of cash from soros doesnt win elections as handily as a fat pile of cash and a few million votes.
 
Paul Helmke, president of the Brady Center to Prevent Gun Violence, was quite direct: "We're very concerned about this case because if it's allowed to stand, and if it becomes the law of the land, it places in jeopardy just about every other gun law you can think of."

Finally, something intelligent from the Brady Center.

pax
 
The NRA's position was that the '86 ban was so blatently unconstitutional that it would be overturned within 6 months.
Interesting. So why didn't they sue? Or did they, and got burned in the lower courts?
 
The DC ban puts unreasonable and unconstitutional restrictions on the natural and inalienable right of self-defense, and that figured prominently in the reasoning of the majority. That is a slightly different issue than simply owning a gun. The Founders and others wrote that 2A was required to assure the right of self defense, which assures the other rights in the Bill of Rights. That is the meaning of "arms", to assure an effective means of self-defense.

This meaning, assuring self-defense of the individual, is part of what has moved the liberal scholars toward the individual rights position. 2A is not about guns per se, but the right of self-defense. Firearms were then and still are the most effective tool to that end. I think NRA would be much more successful if it focused on that message.

And Fenty and the rest of the anti's are going to hide, stategic lawyers. It would be honest if they went forward. They are dishonest, and will not. It would put a lot of people out of work. Sarah Brady would be a nobody, and there would be less of an issue for politicians to play with when they look for "traction". Sort of like fixing Medicare and Social Security, if they did it, what could they use to play the voters with?

While head cases from the UN claim there is no right to self defense, too many scholars, philosophers and wise men and women recognize that without the ability to effectively defend yourself, property and loved ones, you have nothing, you own nothing and your life is forfeit to anyone who wants to take it away from you.

If you choose not to be armed, that is up to you, but you are just betting you don't meet up with someone who is armed and wants something from you.
 
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several gun-control experts worry just as much about the cases the gun lobby might be able to win if the city doesn't keep fighting.
Translation: they lose no matter what.

Appeal to SCOTUS? It most likely will be taken, and the ruling most likely upheld - being narrow and correct.
Accept the ruling? Every home in DC can now be effectively armed, and the next step will be (1) "bear arms" outside the home, and (2) if "arms" includes handguns, it certainly includes machineguns.

Either way, they're screwed. Eventually it had to get here.

Their only hope is appeal, and hope that SCOTUS manages to concoct a convoluted enough argument to weasel out an anti-gun verdict ... or just overturns the DC verdict without comment. And even there, the breaking point for too many will be reached.
 
This all fine and dandy but I won't hold my breath either way. IMO gun rights get taken away and not given back. Sure the AWB was allowed to sunset, but for the last 70 years it has been one step foreard and two steps back. I don't foresee anything ever coming from this. But then I have been called a pessimist by more than one person. :D
 
Well, we didn't have shall-issue CCW anywhere before 1985(?). Now it is in 35 states. We have the momentum.
 
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