Gun ban's end fails to trigger rush

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This speaks for itself...

Gun ban's end fails to trigger rush
Officials say sales, crimes are steady


By DEBORAH SONTAG, The New York Times

Despite dire predictions that the streets would be awash in military-style guns, the expiration of the decade-long assault weapons ban in September has not set off a sustained surge in the weapons' sales, gun makers and sellers say.

It also has not caused a noticeable increase in gun crime in the past seven months, according to several metropolitan police departments.

The uneventful expiration of the assault weapons ban did not surprise gun owners, nor did it surprise some advocates of gun control. Rather, it underscored what many of them had said all along: that the ban was porous -- so porous that assault weapons remained widely available throughout their prohibition.

"The whole time that the American public thought there was an assault weapons ban, there never really was one," said Kristen Rand, legislative director of the Violence Policy Center, a gun-control group.

What's more, law-enforcement officials say that military-style weapons, which were never used in many gun crimes but did enjoy some vogue in the years before the ban took effect, seem to have gone out of style in criminal circles.

"Back in the early '90s, criminals wanted those Rambo-type weapons they could brandish," said Jim Pasco, executive director of the Fraternal Order of Police. "Today they are much happier with a 9-millimeter handgun they can stick in their belt."

Law's loopholes

When the ban took effect in 1994, it exempted more than 1.5 million assault weapons already in private hands. Over the next 10 years, at least 1.17 million more assault weapons were produced -- legitimately -- by manufacturers that availed themselves of loopholes in the law, according to an analysis of firearms production data by the Violence Policy Center.

Throughout the decade-long ban, for instance, the gun manufacturer DPMS/Panther Arms of Minnesota continued selling assault rifles to civilians by the tens of thousands. In compliance with the ban, the firearms manufacturer "sporterized" the military-style weapons, sawing off bayonet lugs, securing stocks so they were not collapsible and adding muzzle brakes. But the changes did not alter the guns' essence; they were still semiautomatic rifles with pistol grips.

After the ban expired in September, DPMS reintroduced its full-featured weapons to the civilian market and enjoyed a slight spike in sales. That increase was short-lived, said Randy E. Luth, the company's owner.

"I never thought the sunset of the ban would be that big a deal," Luth said.

No gun production data are yet available for the seven months since the ban expired. And some gun-control advocates say they don't trust the self-reporting of gun industry representatives, who may want to play down the volume of their sales to ward off a revival of the ban.

Indeed, a replica of the ban is again before the Senate.

"In my view, the assault weapons legislation was working," said Sen. Dianne Feinstein, D-Calif., a chief sponsor of the new bill. "It was drying up supply and driving up prices. The number of those guns used in crimes dropped because they were less available."

What research shows

Assault weapons account for a small fraction of gun crimes: about 2 percent, according to most studies, and no more than 8 percent. But they have been used in many high-profile shooting sprees. The snipers in the 2002 Washington-area shootings used semiautomatic assault rifles that were copycat versions of banned carbines.

Gun crime has plummeted since the early 1990s. But a study for the National Institute of Justice said that it could not "clearly credit the ban with any of the nation's recent drop in gun violence."

Research for the study in several cities did show a significant decline in the criminal use of assault weapons during the ban. According to the study, however, that decline was offset by the "steady or rising use" of other guns equipped with high-capacity magazines -- ammunition-feeding devices that hold more than 10 rounds.

While the 1994 ban prohibited the manufacture and sale of such magazines, it did not outlaw an estimated 25 million of them already in circulation, nor did it stop the importation of millions more into the country.

Feinstein said she wished she could outlaw the "flood of big clips" from abroad, calling that the "one big loophole" in the ban. But that would require amending the bill, and such Republicans as Sen. John W. Warner of Virginia and Sen. Mike DeWine of Ohio are willing to back it only without amendments, she said.

Next step debated

Some gun-control advocates say it is pointless to reintroduce the 1994 ban without amending it to include large magazines and a wider range of guns. They see more promise in enacting or strengthening state or local bans. Seven states -- California, Connecticut, Hawaii, Massachusetts, Maryland, New Jersey and New York -- already have bans, most based on the federal one.

The Fraternal Order of Police has not made a new federal ban a legislative priority, either. Pasco, the organization's director, said he could not recall a single "inquiry from the field about the reauthorization of the ban -- and we have 330,000 members who are very vocal."

"In 1994, I was the principal administration lobbyist on this ban," said Pasco, who then worked for the federal Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms. "But here we are 10 years later, and these weapons do not appear to pose any more significant threat to law enforcement officers than other weapons of similar caliber and capability."

The ban made it illegal to possess or sell a semiautomatic weapon manufactured after September 1994 if the weapon accepted a detachable magazine and contained at least two features from a list that included protruding pistol grips and threaded muzzles. The ban outlawed 19 weapons by name, among them some foreign semiautomatics already banned under the 1989 firearms importation law, which still stands.
 
at least 1.17 million more assault weapons were produced -- legitimately -- by manufacturers that availed themselves of loopholes in the law

Uh, excuse me, but weren't these guns produced to specifically be in compliance with the law?

Morons.
 
Despite dire predictions that the streets would be awash in military-style guns, the expiration of the decade-long assault weapons ban in September has not set off a sustained surge in the weapons' sales, gun makers and sellers say.

It also has not caused a noticeable increase in gun crime in the past seven months, according to several metropolitan police departments.

*sigh*
Can't wait to see how the antis rationalize this.
 
"The uneventful expiration of the assault weapons ban did not surprise gun owners, nor did it surprise some advocates of gun control. Rather, it underscored what many of them had said all along: that the ban was porous -- so porous that assault weapons remained widely available throughout their prohibition.

"The whole time that the American public thought there was an assault weapons ban, there never really was one," said Kristen Rand, legislative director of the Violence Policy Center, a gun-control group.


I made it this far into the article while waiting in line at the coffee shop Sunday and then figured out where it was going.
I just finished reading it here and my opinion stays.

Doc
 
Notice how the reporter conflates "assault rifles" with "assault weapons" with "military-style rifles guns"? In Timespeak, the terms are all interchangeable and means "those icky black scary-looking gun." Out here in the real world we know that these terms all have different definitions even though antis stupidly claim that the "assault weapons ban" didn't really ban assault weapons.

Check out this stupid article article by Sasha Abramsky in The Nation. http://www.thenation.com/doc.mhtml?i=20050418&c=1&s=abramsky

Abramsky and Sontag both implicitly assume that there is some objective category of guns known as "assault weapons" that exists separate and apart from whatever legislation seeks to ban them. There isn't. As I pointed out to one misguided gun-owning friend, if tomorrow Congress were to re-enact an "assault weapons" ban and define "assault weapons" to include his over/under shotgun and all BB guns, would such a definition be wrong? Of course not. An "assault weapon" is whatever Congress or your state legislature SAYS it is.

Coining the term "assault weapon" was an act of pure genius by Josh Sugarman.
 
So, the logic goes:

assault weapons really weren't used in many crimes in the first place so it didn't really save any lives...

but there were so many loopholes that they never really went away...

and even though there were so many, the end of the AWB was supposed to spark a feeding frenzy...

and with all those guns there was going to be 'blood in the streets'...

but there wasn't because there were already so many guns that people didn't need more....

I think I need a Valium... :uhoh:
 
I hate the term "military style weapon". My bolt action Swiss K-31 and Mosin 91/30 are "military style" weapons too.

As are the Remington 700s being used in Iraq.

I know they mean the "Big 3" of Ak47s, AR15/M16s, and the Uzi (I have never even heard of an Uzi being used in a crime, I think all those 1980s movies stuck with people).

I think its soon to become the "Big 4" with the addition of 50 cal rifles!
 
They say crime levels and gun sales have remained steady since the end of the ban. But I love how they turn it into the issue of how ineffective the law was. Maybe they will try confiscation?
 
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