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  1. fedlaw

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    Blagojevich, Daley press for assault weapons ban

    The Associated Press
    Published January 17, 2006, 2:48 PM CST


    Gov. Rod Blagojevich and Chicago Mayor Richard Daley renewed calls Tuesday for a statewide ban on assault weapons.

    The two Chicago Democrats, who have been pressing for the ban since a federal measure banning assault weapons expired more than a year ago, appeared together at a rally in Chicago.

    "Every sane person would agree that machine guns and grenades should be illegal," Daley said in his prepared remarks. "Their only purpose is to kill large numbers of people. The same is true of military-style assault weapons."

    President Clinton signed a federal ban on assault weapons in 1994, but the ban expired in September 2004 when Congress decided not to renew it. Since then, Daley and Blagojevich have pushed for a state law that would prohibit the manufacture, possession and delivery of semiautomatic weapons, assault weapon attachments and the 50-caliber assault rifle.

    Assault weapons are currently illegal in Chicago. Illinois lawmakers narrowly rejected a proposed ban on assault weapons and .50-caliber rifles last May amid intense lobbying by both sides in the debate.

    The National Rifle Association argued that the proposed statewide ban was too broad and would ban weapons used by hunters, target-shooters and collectors as well.

    Daley said earlier this month that he would continue pushing for stricter gun laws, even though several of his proposals have failed to pass the Illinois General Assembly in recent years.
     
  2. Standing Wolf

    Standing Wolf Member in memoriam

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    What would he know about sanity? Daly is a statist parasite of the lowest order.
     
  3. Sindawe

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    If Blagojevich and Daley are examples of sanity, I'd rather be a froth-mouthed lunatic.
     
  4. Remington788

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    Bl and King Dick need a reality check.:cuss:

    Edited to remove name Art's grammaw would never approve of...Jeff
     
  5. Jeff White

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    Funny how Blagojevich won't come down here and say that

    As far as I know, only the ST Louis Post Dispatch is carrying any of Blagojevich's press releases on this.

    I may call the local rags tomorrow and ask why they aren't carrying the story. I'd almost bet the Southern Illinois media isn't on the distribution lists for those releases...

    Jeff
     
  6. Malone LaVeigh

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    Ever notice how close "Daley" is to "Delay"?
     
  7. MN_Strelok

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    Misdirection 101

    Notice how they always manage to make an oblique reference to machine guns? Every time a press release like this sees wide distribution, I spend the next week explaining that machine guns are already illegal.

    At least they didn't directly claim that they're trying to ban "AK-47s and Uzis" this time.
     
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    I'm trying to think of a sufficiently scathing witticism in response to this, but I'm drawing a blank.
     
  9. Jeff White

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    I figure that Blago has given up on being elected to a second term. He ran away from his antigun record here in Southern Illinois. He's certainly not going to be able to hide from this, it's going to be featured in the State of the State address later today:
    http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/ne...B956FC37925BEF2B862570FA001DC5B2?OpenDocument
    The new Keno game to pay for the construction plan is a good example of how business is done by both parties here in Illinois:
    http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/ne...21304570E050C1F1862570F5000ECD31?OpenDocument
    Here are some excerpts from yesterday's press release:

    You can read the entire press release here:
    http://www.illinois.gov/PressReleases/ShowPressRelease.cfm?SubjectID=3&RecNum=4591

    According to the ISRA what they actually said in the press conference was even worse then what was printed in the press release. You can listen to the whole 11 minute press conference on MP3 at this link:

    http://www.isra.org/legislation/media/blago-daley_01172006_press_conference.mp3

    I don't know if Blago and Daley think they can buy off the Southern Illinois legislators with the construction program or if they are just trying to get other problem out of the headlines. We've killed this bill, defeated it soundly every year since Blago was elected. I don't know why, he's coming out now, when he knows this will kill him politically in the Southern half of the state.

    Jeff
     
  10. fedlaw

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    See today's story in the Trib:

    Blagojevich, Daley push gun ban
    Both plan to make it top priority this year

    By Courtney Flynn and Christi Parsons
    Tribune staff reporters
    Published January 18, 2006


    After several failed attempts to pass a statewide ban on assault weapons, Gov. Rod Blagojevich and Chicago Mayor Richard Daley said Tuesday they will make the initiative a top priority in the current session of the state legislature.

    In a joint news conference, the two Chicago Democrats called on the General Assembly to support their proposal to ban the manufacture, sale and possession of semi-automatic and .50-caliber weapons.

    Blagojevich said his plan would do away with some of the most powerful guns on the market, and that it therefore doesn't affect the rights of law-abiding gun owners who want weapons for self-defense or hunting--a point vigorously put forth by gun-rights groups.

    "We don't need to have TEC-9 assault weapons, Uzis or AK-47s to protect our homes, protect our neighborhoods or to go hunting," Blagojevich said. "And you certainly don't need the .50 caliber sniper rifle to do anything but act as a terrorist and be a criminal and a gangbanger."

    The governor will make a pitch directly to the General Assembly when it convenes for his annual State of the State Address on Wednesday. That speech comes two years after the expiration of the federal ban on assault weapons, after Congress failed to re-enact it.

    Even before the expiration, law enforcement officials and gun-control advocates have been trying to enact some form of assault-weapons ban at the state level. Seven states have done so but in Illinois, efforts have failed by a handful of votes.

    Still, Blagojevich and Daley think there may be some momentum behind their efforts. Last year, lawmakers sided with gun-control groups on several votes, including one to require background checks for all sales at gun shows.

    Daley said the next step is to get rid of assault weapons.

    "I think all of us have made great progress in the last few years of reducing the amount of violence in our communities, both in the state and in the city," Daley said. "If we are really to make the progress that we want, we have to keep the most dangerous weapons that are right here off of our streets."

    According to the Blagojevich administration, assault weapons are those that fire bullets rapidly and that can hit several targets quickly. Assault weapons have a high level of firepower, can penetrate body armor and tend to pose a significant threat to police, according to the governor's news release.

    Gun-rights groups say the legislation is unfair, because the description covers guns commonly used by law-abiding hunters and sport shooters.

    "There's no making these people happy," said NRA lobbyist Todd Vandermyde. "They just want to ban as much stuff as they can ... They will never be happy until they have eradicated firearm ownership."

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    cflynn@tribune.com
     
  11. Don Gwinn

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    I honestly think Blago will be re-elected in a landslide simply because the Republicans are a disorganized jumble of fools. I used to think he was doomed, but I've come around.
     
  12. Jeff White

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    Don,
    Unfortunately you have a point. I don't think any of the announced republican candidates can win. It is encouraging that Blago has a primary challenge to face.

    I wonder what the democrats would do if a Southern Illinois democrat jumped into the race?

    Jeff
     
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    I stand corrected, fedlaw. Not surprised, just corrected.

    So, Jeff, how many .50 BMGs have you taken off gangbangers so far this year? It's clearly their weapon of choice.
     
  14. Jeff White

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    Must be the weapon of choice North of I80, it's mostly Jennings and Lorcins around here. :confused:

    I'm starting to wonder what Blagojevich is getting from Daley for this? He's pretty much kept his mouth shut on the gun issue the whole term, because he knows it doesn't play well anywhere but Chicago. Last year Daley even publically called him on it.

    Is Don right, does he think he's got a lock on re-election, or is the federal probe into influence peddling in the governor's office getting close?

    Jeff
     
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    I intended to buy one of those .50 caliber sniper rifles, but if it is going to make me act "as a terrorist and be a criminal and a gangbanger," then I guess I'll wait until a model is available that makes me act like a caring, loving, peaceable subject. :rolleyes:
     
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    10-4 to that MN_Strelok.

    I do not know Daley personally, but I believe he is sincere in his anti-gun beliefs. (Yes, I am aware of his 24-man armed protection detail.) I further would not be surprised if he would like Chicago to be like London of the 1960's where the police were not armed. (The many anti-CPD edicts originating from city hall, including the hiring of recruits who are anti-gun, are big clues to his true feelings.)
    Blago is a different story. Like any self-respecting parasite, he will say or do anything in order to remain in power.
    So, while I disagree with Daley on many issues, I am offended when a worm like our esteemed (haha) governor pretends to be a man.
    Steve
     
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    And every sane person would agree that a large city like Chicago shouldn't run by a government filled with corruption from top to bottom.:cuss:
     
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    I also love how every anti-gunner assumes that the .50 BMG rifle was designed for military purposes. The first rifles (in the US)were built by long-range competition shooters who were looking for improved range and accuracy. It was later that the US military caught on and started to field the .50 BMG sniper rifles.
     
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    From the State of the State Speech:

    Rod Blagojevich Illinois Governor January 18, 2006:
    http://www.illinois.gov/gov/sosspeech2006.cfm
    We need to remember this, and remind all of our state senators and representives that we won't foget come election day.

    Jeff
     
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    Ahh, the hypocrisy oozes from the pores of King Richard II and the Viceroy of Springfield (can you be a Viceroy if you don't actually live in the region you run?). :banghead: HB2414, the house version of the bill specifically mentions the AUG as a "semi-automatic assault rifle." I'm not LE, but I bet there's not a single recorded case of an AUG being used in a criminal endeavor-Die Hard excepted, of course ;)
     
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    Aren't there a number of top tier Evil Black Rifle manufacturers located in Illinois?

    Rock River Arms is in Illinois I believe. Armalite is, too. Springfield Armory? DSA? Colt?
     
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    Yep, dont think Colt is but I know Armalite is in Geneso.

    WHen this came up last year the owner of the company said he would pull up stakes and move to Iowa, and take his employees with him.

    The wife and I may be joining him if the BS keeps up.
     
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    Colt is out East, but the others are here. The contingency plans to pick up and leave are very real from what I've been told by officers of Armalite.
     
  24. Cellar Dweller

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    Apparently not far enough outside Emperor Daley's
    Blagojevich: "I'm the only one in the room professional enough to add Keno games." :evil:

    Armalite, DSA, RRA, etc. employ what, a couple hundred total? Plus they're on the wrong side? Illinois will have KENO! Blago and Daley get NO kickbacks from gun manufacturers, but the possibilities from Keno are amazing. Licenses, inspectors, auditors, $80 million for the state's coffers, $many million to buy influence...all DIRECTLY controlled by the control freaks.

    Gambling and guns are evil, except when the State is doing it.
     
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    I've got a very bad feeling about this. I think it will pass this time. I've always thought that the expiration of the federal AW ban was going to be a bad thing for me and any blue state residents who own and use firearms of a military appearance. One by one the blue states will pass their own bans which will be much, much worse than the old federal AWB. The antis have learned their lesson since then and there is no wiggle room in these new laws.
     
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