7thCavScout
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I shoot all of mine except my Ithaca 1911A1 and my DWM 1916 Luger.
Gun collectors vs. skill collectors.
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Shienhausser
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I them and shoot the crap out of them. Same with cars.
I'd be the guy with 100,000 miles on his Lamborghini
(In a fantasy world where I'd have one)
A friend of mine was a little perturbed with the fact that I now choose to carry around a s&w 66 no dash, thinks I am going to ruin it and told me to buy something newer and cheaper instead for carry. I told him "No, buying it and then leaving it in a dark safe would "ruin it" for me."
I'd be the guy with 100,000 miles on his Lamborghini
(In a fantasy world where I'd have one)A friend of mine was a little perturbed with the fact that I now choose to carry around a s&w 66 no dash, thinks I am going to ruin it and told me to buy something newer and cheaper instead for carry. I told him "No, buying it and then leaving it in a dark safe would "ruin it" for me."
RX-178
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I think the only gun I have that I haven't shot is a Mossberg 190 K A bolt action 16ga shotgun.
I don't know, if I hadn't gone to Alaska, maybe I'd have shot it by now, but I haven't had any real reason to other than fun, and I've got a safe full of other guns that are just as fun.
It's still not making the trip up to Anchorage with me this time, although a couple of my handguns are.
I don't know, if I hadn't gone to Alaska, maybe I'd have shot it by now, but I haven't had any real reason to other than fun, and I've got a safe full of other guns that are just as fun.
It's still not making the trip up to Anchorage with me this time, although a couple of my handguns are.
Mike1234567
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I'm not a collector but I have several firearms that I don't shoot because I don't need to. I bought and am saving them as investments in the future.
ETA: These are not "pretty" guns. These are typical user firearms. Most are NIB, however.
ETA: These are not "pretty" guns. These are typical user firearms. Most are NIB, however.
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A person who buys a modern gun and customizes it may be a "skill collector." But a person who would chop the barrels on an A.A. Grade Parker or saw off the stock on a Winchester '66 is not a "skill collector" he is a barbarian and a vandal.
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+1 Guns are art as well as tools.
+1 "He has only ONE guitar?" (If he only has ONE? Ya, thats odd.)
+1 Using the guns and taking care of them.
+1 "I'm the guy with 100,000 miles on his lambo"
My first two guns have lots of dings from use. It goes with the territory. My only 'safe queens' are guns I'm low on ammo for (I like to keep 100+rds for everything).
+1 "He has only ONE guitar?" (If he only has ONE? Ya, thats odd.)
+1 Using the guns and taking care of them.
+1 "I'm the guy with 100,000 miles on his lambo"
My first two guns have lots of dings from use. It goes with the territory. My only 'safe queens' are guns I'm low on ammo for (I like to keep 100+rds for everything).
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If I don't carry it or shoot it somewhat regularly, it's not in my safe long.
Don't get me wrong, there is nothing wrong with owning a pretty gun. But in my case, even the pretty ones are duplicates (or cousins) of the EDC ones.
Nothing wrong with having a spare in case one is off at the 'smith or in an evidence locker somewhere...
Don't get me wrong, there is nothing wrong with owning a pretty gun. But in my case, even the pretty ones are duplicates (or cousins) of the EDC ones.
Nothing wrong with having a spare in case one is off at the 'smith or in an evidence locker somewhere...
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me said:
And I have my answer!Jim K said:
We should all be very glad that others enjoy owning guns for whatever reason, as our numbers help us to retain our rights. Our numbers help to normalize gun ownership within our larger culture as a standard, not an exception.
We should all be glad that other folks want to buy guns as that allows manufacturers to put more product on the market, leading to wider variety and lower unit costs for guns and ammunition. Demand does drive price, but steady demand seems to drive investment in the industry.
I wonder if stamp collectors should be mailing their stamps away on letters, or if coin collectors should be using their collectable coins to buy stuff from vending machines?
I'm not a collector in the true sense; more an accumulator. I can see how negative statements made against collectors could be a tactic to establish oneself as being in a separate camp, i.e., someone with mad skillz.
We should all be glad that other folks want to buy guns as that allows manufacturers to put more product on the market, leading to wider variety and lower unit costs for guns and ammunition. Demand does drive price, but steady demand seems to drive investment in the industry.
I wonder if stamp collectors should be mailing their stamps away on letters, or if coin collectors should be using their collectable coins to buy stuff from vending machines?
I'm not a collector in the true sense; more an accumulator. I can see how negative statements made against collectors could be a tactic to establish oneself as being in a separate camp, i.e., someone with mad skillz.
Shienhausser
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I would totally mail a letter with OLD stamps but it would have to be a very important letter.
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Bof 'em. I collect the gear and use it, and I build my own stuff to suit my taste. I don't care about resale value because I don't resell 'em. That said, there is this really nice Hi-Power Rennaisance that I'd like to frame on the wall...
CraigC
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I do what I suggest everybody else does......my own thing.
Shienhausser
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"Bof 'em. I collect the gear and use it, and I build my own stuff to suit my taste. I don't care about resale value because I don't resell 'em. That said, there is this really nice Hi-Power Rennaisance that I'd like to frame on the wall..."
That's my new attitude, I don't want it if I don't use it. I sold 2 guns last weekend and you know what, I don't miss them at all. For me that means I didn't need to have them at all. The gun I got out trade has my heart and I will shoot the crap out of it until it explodes.
That's my new attitude, I don't want it if I don't use it. I sold 2 guns last weekend and you know what, I don't miss them at all. For me that means I didn't need to have them at all. The gun I got out trade has my heart and I will shoot the crap out of it until it explodes.
we are not amused
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Never thought of myself as a collector, till at a gun show there was this '96 model M1896 Carbine, in very good shape!
I agonized the rest of the show and most of the next week, called the dealer and bought the darn thing! I have never fired it, and don't intend to, (have several other Krags to do that with, including my deer gun). It just sits around in the safe and occasionally gets brought out for cleaning or bragging.
I have no intention of ever selling it, I figure my relatives can when I'm done with it. The other "collectable" guns, a Springfield 45-70 Trapdoor, and the C96 Mauser, I do shoot upon occasion, but neither of them are in as good a shape as the Krag.
I tend to want to shoot all my guns, but that Krag Carbine is just too nice to shoot!
I agonized the rest of the show and most of the next week, called the dealer and bought the darn thing! I have never fired it, and don't intend to, (have several other Krags to do that with, including my deer gun). It just sits around in the safe and occasionally gets brought out for cleaning or bragging.
I have no intention of ever selling it, I figure my relatives can when I'm done with it. The other "collectable" guns, a Springfield 45-70 Trapdoor, and the C96 Mauser, I do shoot upon occasion, but neither of them are in as good a shape as the Krag.
I tend to want to shoot all my guns, but that Krag Carbine is just too nice to shoot!
Personally, I assume I'm both.
Just bought a P229 2 months ago, meant for collection (trying to collect the entire Sig handgun family, one of each type) but noticed it was on the list of "Approved", so I got clearance by HQ for duty use also. Been beat up and scratch up the wazoo.
I have a 1911 left to me by my grandfather, never even shot it once. I put it in storage ever since.
Just bought a P229 2 months ago, meant for collection (trying to collect the entire Sig handgun family, one of each type) but noticed it was on the list of "Approved", so I got clearance by HQ for duty use also. Been beat up and scratch up the wazoo.
I have a 1911 left to me by my grandfather, never even shot it once. I put it in storage ever since.
otcconan
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I'd call him a poser. Guitars, like guns, need love. A guitar needs to be broken in, just like a gun. Until you get all the little spurs off the frets, steel wool the back of the neck until it's nice and smooth, and put at least 20 hours of playing through it, it's still going to feel tight and unplayable.
I know this because this is mine:
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31740123&id=1410245701
Guns are pretty much the same thing.
CraigC
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Doesn't sound like he's pretending to be anything he's not. He's just a dude that owns a guitar he doesn't play.
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I have never bought anything I didn't intend to shoot.
However, that doesn't explain my unfired/NIB S&W 586-7 which, I imagine, I could sell for more than I paid for it. It likewise doesn't explain my unfired Marlin 1894C in .357 magnum. Or, for that matter, an unfired/NIB Ruger MkII (pencil barrel), or its close friend, the unfired/NIB Ruger 10/22 stainless long-barreled rifle. I bought them all to shoot. I've had them for more than four years. They've never so much as been to the range.
Why? Well, basically it's a function of time and money.
What little time I do get to practice is mostly spent shooting .22 (for technique and fun), 9mm (for skill and fun), and .223 (mostly for fun). Once in a while I'll break out the .40, but that costs more to shoot and tends to be rough on my hand. I hardly ever fire the .30-30, but I intended that for hunting, which I have yet to do. The Kahr and the Taurus see more range time for the simple reason that those are the carry pistols.
I will probably never get to retire, at least not in the sense that some others do. The housing market ate all our equity along with our retirement funds. Unless something changes financially, it's unlikely that I'll be expanding my "collection" any time soon.
I shoot when I can (time) and when I can afford it (money).
The consequence, unhappily, is a couple of unintended "safe queen" pieces.
Now and again I'll pick up a box of .38 or .357 against the day that I'm able to properly debut the Smith and the Marlin. Their time will come.
So, one possible reason for a guy having unfired hardware in his safe could simply be that he either has no time or money (or both) to break them in.
I would be a living example of that case.
I have never bought anything I didn't intend to shoot.
However, that doesn't explain my unfired/NIB S&W 586-7 which, I imagine, I could sell for more than I paid for it. It likewise doesn't explain my unfired Marlin 1894C in .357 magnum. Or, for that matter, an unfired/NIB Ruger MkII (pencil barrel), or its close friend, the unfired/NIB Ruger 10/22 stainless long-barreled rifle. I bought them all to shoot. I've had them for more than four years. They've never so much as been to the range.
Why? Well, basically it's a function of time and money.
What little time I do get to practice is mostly spent shooting .22 (for technique and fun), 9mm (for skill and fun), and .223 (mostly for fun). Once in a while I'll break out the .40, but that costs more to shoot and tends to be rough on my hand. I hardly ever fire the .30-30, but I intended that for hunting, which I have yet to do. The Kahr and the Taurus see more range time for the simple reason that those are the carry pistols.
I will probably never get to retire, at least not in the sense that some others do. The housing market ate all our equity along with our retirement funds. Unless something changes financially, it's unlikely that I'll be expanding my "collection" any time soon.
I shoot when I can (time) and when I can afford it (money).
The consequence, unhappily, is a couple of unintended "safe queen" pieces.
Now and again I'll pick up a box of .38 or .357 against the day that I'm able to properly debut the Smith and the Marlin. Their time will come.
So, one possible reason for a guy having unfired hardware in his safe could simply be that he either has no time or money (or both) to break them in.
I would be a living example of that case.
I own paintings, but I can't paint. I own 50 handguns I don't shoot, but I also own 11 more that I do shoot. Just because you can appreciate the workmanship, beauty, and value of anything, doesn't make you a lesser man. How many 4X4 lifted, tricked out pickups have you seen driving down the hiway that have never been on a dirt road? Heck, I even have a dog that doesn't hunt, had a wife that couldn't cook, and a son that wouldn't cut the grass.
Ignition Override
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For guns which haven't been manufactured since about 1945 or so, two of them get used less often, in order to preserve the looks and very nice bore condition.
To answer the OP's direct question with a direct answer:
One reason I bought five Enfields is to protect them from any bozo who would consider permanent alterations.
About 35 min. southeast of Evansville, IN, I saw a GI-vintage M-1 Carbine at "Whittakers" (KY) which had been painted green, even the metal. Who ever did that was a true nit wit.
This was over a year ago.
To answer the OP's direct question with a direct answer:
One reason I bought five Enfields is to protect them from any bozo who would consider permanent alterations.
About 35 min. southeast of Evansville, IN, I saw a GI-vintage M-1 Carbine at "Whittakers" (KY) which had been painted green, even the metal. Who ever did that was a true nit wit.
This was over a year ago.
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Hangingrock
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Words to this effect “If you can’t run with the big dogs stay on the porch” apply to me. I simply don’t have the disposable income to be a collector. Basically I’m a shooter.
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nobody cares, until i am footing the bill for someones guns, i won't care at all
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