Gun discharges, officer injured

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Ehhhhhh, it just went off Sarge:scrutiny:


I can understand the need to preserve evidence, but it seems that unloading the weapon, keeping it pointed in a safe direction, and keeping your finger off the trigger shouldn't completely wreck the state's case against the man for MDOP and carrying charges.


edit - I'd like to add a question for our LEO's - what is your department's policy/regulation for clearing potentially loaded evidence weapons?

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http://www.mlive.com/news/muchronicle/index.ssf?/base/news-4/108167858685780.xml

A Muskegon Heights police officer was recovering this weekend from a lost finger after a handgun he had seized from a suspect discharged at police headquarters.

Officer Mario D. Sain suffered the loss of his right small finger, police and fire officials said. They said Sain was placing a .40-caliber Glock semi-automatic pistol in a box at about 4:10 p.m. Friday when the weapon discharged. The gun was being readied for shipment to a crime lab where it was to be checked for fingerprints and other possible clues.

Officials said weapons preserved for evidence and sent for analysis are kept in pristine condition, with as little handling by police as possible. The discharge left a bullet hole inside police headquarters, according to officials

The Glock was seized early Friday after police had answered a call about 10 a.m. to the Day's Inn, 3450 Hoyt, reporting gunshots and malicious destruction of property. About $1,500 damage had been done to a mirror, a wall and other parts of a room at the motel, according to a police report.

Police questioned a male suspect, placed him in custody and later found the weapon they believe was involved in the incident in a yard in the 3300 block of Leahy Street. The suspect, a 26-year-old Egelston Township man, was being held on charges of malicious destruction of property, carrying a concealed weapon and felony firearm.

Muskegon Heights fire officials said they were called to the adjacent police department to lend medical assistance when the accident happened. The police report said Sain was able to dictate his report to another police officer later Friday.
 
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You know...

there are so many SADLY STUPID safety violations to point out here that I'd just wear myself out, and then I'd have to go to work anyway.

Perhaps the worst one is this- of all the guns in the world, more cops get more 'training exposure' to Glocks than everything else combined. Think of the havoc this guy could have wreaked if he had found a 1911, or Colt Single Action:what:

I feel bad for the guy in any event. Maybe he (or his agency) will learn something from the experience.
 
Boy just leand credit to the Cops are the only ones with proper training and shold be the only ones with guns dont it ..:rolleyes: :cuss:

Another thought just what in the hell was this guy thinking with fingers in front of the muzzle.. well duh
 
"..the gun 'went off'..."

Sorry the officer lost a pinky............but, why is it all these accidental discharges(well, not ALL but A LOT)happen to involve the Austrian Wonder Pistol?:rolleyes:
 
Two reasons that the Glock gets so much press is that
1. The Glock is the single most prevelant pistol on the maket for police and civilian use.
2. The indoctrination is that it is just like a revolver and can be handeled as such.
 
:( Sigh! Why do they do these things? Why do they always do these silly things? Negligence, pure and simple! Sorry he lost part of his finger but he of all people should know the rules concerning handling a firearm. As we all know rule one states that they are ALL LOADED!!!!:banghead:
 
Jeepers, the Days Inn is about a block and a half from my house. There is a lot of crime in this area. As far as the Muskegon Heights PD is concerned, they do not have a stellar reputation. That department makes the news fairly often and it is usually a negative story about the officers. One officer was recently fired because of a road rage incident while off duty.:cuss:
 
Maybe the gun has been infused with some demons, just like every other 'evil black gun'.

Here's what really happened:
Remember those Friday the thirteenth movies where Jason has voices in his head?
Cop picks up Glock.
Voices in head say "pupupulll ttrtrigger ppupupull trtrtrtigger pupupull trtrtrigger."
The cop who is not immune to demons predicably pulls the trigger.

:rolleyes:
 
Jeepers, the Days Inn is about a block and a half from my house. There is a lot of crime in this area. As far as the Muskegon Heights PD is concerned, they do not have a stellar reputation

Heh, heh. I know what you're talking about. I grew up near Cloverville about five miles south of there. For a while the Heights had the second highest crime rate in the state, second only to Detroit. I think that Flint or Benton Harbor has beat them out for that trophy recently though.

Part of the problem, IMHO, is that any police department draws heavily from the cultural influence of it's location. For most of you who are not familar with Muskegon Heights, it is a very heavily "urban" or "inner city" area with the consequent unfamiliarity with firearms of it's citizens that are common to urban areas. This guy's first legal experience with firearms might very well have been in the police academy. That doesn't mean he couldn't make a good cop, but he would need additional firearm training to that which Joe "my dad is an NRA instructor" might more commonly need.
 
A good trade, hopefully

A valuable lesson learned about gun handling, and it only costs him a pinky? He did better than many :(

Look on the bright side, though-we can honestly say that Glock ADs are a single digit problem! :evil:
 
A Glock....AGAIN!!

I don't think your numbers are anywhere near right for glock being "most prevalant" pistol.

Consider:

1. More than 9 million 1911 type pistols have been made

2. Over 7 million S&W M&P/M10 .38 revolvers.

It can't be numbers causing the problem with Glock being the subject of nearly every ND we encounter.....

Perhaps it is an inherient design flaw? BTW, did you know Glock has made product with a thumb safety for some military organizations?

FWIW

Chuck


Two reasons that the Glock gets so much press is that
1. The Glock is the single most prevelant pistol on the maket for police and civilian use.
2. The indoctrination is that it is just like a revolver and can be handeled as such.
 
Wow… yet another brother or sister officer injured by this colossal flawed POS.

It’s amazing how folks here are quick to blame the operator simply because he/she is a cop there for must be an idiot.
It’s amazing how folks here are quick to pass judgment because every cop this side of Pluto carries the darn thing.

First off there are more of these “incidents†than what is being reported, I know of two in a 30-mile radius of my department
Which, thankfully resulted in no injuries except to the ground.

The gun is a POS, plain and simple.

So many LE Agencies carry the gun not because it’s the best, but because it’s CHEAP!

Glock literally gives them to us, they charge us about half what you pay for one (with out night sites), with nite sites.

They will take any and all guns we’ve confiscated in on trade and when they break or have problems they replace them with no questions asked.

Last month we returned about 8 brand new ones to Glock, which jammed, on every single mag we tried. They were all sequential serial numbers and we tried new replacement mags before returning them.

This is not the first time this has happened.

We have 125 sworn officers who tote either the G22 or G23 and I’d say less than 50 are actually happy with it, most want either a Beretta or a Sig and one guy wants his Walther P99 9mm he carries off duty.

I carry a G22, I hate it. I carry an S&W 360PD as a hold out piece.

When I arrive home, the very first thing I do is unload the G22 and re-secure it in my holster and put it high on a shelf, it does not get loaded again until I go to work again, because I do not trust it and I do not want it loaded around my house.

My off duty carry piece is a Sig P239 .357SIG; my beside the bed gun is a SIG P226 9mm.

I have accepted that the Glocks are here to stay so I am ultra careful with mine, but don’t delude yourself into thinking that LEO’s carry the Glock because it’s the best, they carry it because the department requires it because it’s the cheapest thing going.
 
5.5 lb trigger pull. And they Always fire when you load them and pull the trigger. So this genius pointed a loaded glock at his hand and pulled the trigger. One thing I'm sure of as a Glock owner, He PULLED the trigger.

5 lb trigger pull from the factory, yes. But on this particular one... who knows? If the trigger were pulled accidently, I would bet it had trigger work done.
 
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