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ok i posted something similer in another area and got nothing
im looking for a list of people that revolutionized or contributed to what is used in our classrooms today
i know a few like Masad Ayoob and Elmer Kieth and i just learned a little about JH FitzGerald
just a list no history needed ill look into all that myself
gunfighters defense experts etc all welcomed
 
Bill Jordan
Charles Askins
George Nonte
Jack Weaver
Harry Calahan :) (Fictional...but...think about it)
Chuck Taylor
Rob Leatham
Jim Cirrillo
Wyatt Earp
Chuck Karwan
Alvin York
James Butler Hickock
Johns Wesley Hardin
Bill Tilghman
Ben Thompson
Dan Daly
Robert Howard
Frank Hamer
Thell Reed
Ed McGivern
Tom Horn
John Farnham

To name a few...
 
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Some folks have instant name recognition, but for various reasons others don't. Some of those people aren't known because the things they did, and the lessons they learned, happened in places they weren't supposed to be. Some of them managed to pass along lessons to others, and some didn't. Most of those were in the military, and some of the things they learned and taught might not often apply to us plain old citizens.

One name I don't see on any of the lists so far is that of Carlos Hathcock. His name is on a diploma on my wife's "I love me" wall- she got to take his class once upon a time. And I don't think anyone here would argue that Gunny Hathcock had a real influence on what's taught in various classrooms across the country today, though not a whole lot of ordinary citizens are in those classrooms.

In the same vein, John Plaster deserves mention here. Most folks know of John's several books, but he has a long list of accomplishments to his credit in training law enforcement snipers as well. John cut his teeth running recon with MACV-SOG. That by itself establishes sufficient credentials for anyone familiar with the history of the organization.

While he never taught a class dealing with firearms that I know of, there is no greater debt owed in the area of the establishment of mindset than that belonging to Nick Rowe. His legacy lives after him in Ft. Bragg's SERE (survival, evasion, resistance, escape) program. His autobiography Five Years To Freedom is must reading IMHO. "Never, never give up" and "Get back in the fight" are watchwords these days, and hearken to the sort of indomitable spirit that Nick exemplified for all of us.

There are numerous nameless sources who laid the groundwork for so much of what is taught today in the various shooting schools around the country. Much goes back to America's and the free world's first real exploration of efficient combative techniques. Those legends- Sykes and Fairbairn- planted seeds that flourished through the history of OSS and SOE, and their offspring and cousins in free world military special operations. Lessons passed along and new lessons learned in Southeast Asia by organizations like MACV-SOG found their way diretly into newer organizations like Blue Light and Delta. Now we see new instructors joining the ranks of outstanding new trainers in the field following service on the leading edge of the war on terror- Kyle Lamb, Paul Howe, Larry Vickers for example. But their roots run deep...

Lest we forget.

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thanks guys
thanks lee VERY informative all of you have given me some great names to research i asked this not because i want to know there teaching so much as there history so ill be busy for a while

Lee i should have mentioned Carlos Hathcock given the fact that he is one of my heroes not just on a shooting standard but as a person and a survivor
 
George S. Patton

As a cavalry lieutenant in Pershing's Punitive Expedition into Mexico he got into a gunfight in which a prominent Villista officer was killed. He was an Olympic pistol shooter as well.
 
My List:
Probably the two most important names IMO are:
Jack Weaver
Jeff Cooper

Just because you don't shoot the Weaver stance, doesn't mean you shouldn't give him credit, the Weaver stance was a step forward from the one handed firing stances common before Jeff Cooper took Jack's stance and incorporated into his Modern Technique of the Pistol.

Other information names with be
Brian Enos
Rob Leatham

These two were one of the major powers pushed forward practical shooting. And helped master the stance, and shooting methods I have learned.

Finally I have one more name I would add:
John Farnham

He pushed the warrior mindset further then Jeff Cooper, I think he influenced some of the more mindset oriented training that we have now.

Those five names probably have the biggest influences on the way I shoot and think these days. There are others that have influenced me, but none to the degree as the five on this list. I am also sure that there are people who's work that the five on this list built their work on, but it's the person that paints the picture that gets the credit, not the people that made the paints, or the person that made the canvas.
 
Tom Threepesons
Porter Rockwell
Both were reported to be some of the most prolific gunfighters in the history of the west but little is written of either.
 
Totally agree with all these legendary names (well,except Clint Eastwood:eek:). It really frustrates me that a lot of "gun" people I know are not familiar with any of them, yet know everything there is to know about the Pittsburgh Steelers. I tell them to let me know when football stats help save your life!
 
Some of his story has come into contention but there is little doubt that he played a role in taming the border country around El Paso. I know a guy that was in the Masonic Lodge with him and he claimed the Threepersons always had a colt with him, this was late in his life 1950's. He and his wife also considered buying the Threepersons home in Silver City and claimed there was a dirt bank target range out back that was well used.
 
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