Gun Free workplaces

[Houdini]

• NEW: Victim was shot more than once by ex-boyfriend, police say
• NEW: Woman in critical condition at North Broward Medical Center
• Police find abandoned car they believe belongs to suspect
• Police are searching for the suspect

POMPANO BEACH, Florida (AP) -- A gunman chased his ex-girlfriend through her office Friday morning, shooting at her over the cubicles and critically wounding her before fleeing, authorities said.

Police quickly tracked down the car they believe Roger Murray fled in, but it was empty, Broward County sheriff's spokesman Elliott Cohen said.

The victim was working at Florida Builder Appliances when she was attacked. She was shot more than once and was taken to North Broward Medical Center in critical condition, Pompano Beach city spokeswoman Sandra King said.

Cohen said a second man, whose identity was not released, was in the car with Murray, 27, and went into the building with him. He said both show up on surveillance video, which was not immediately released.

"Both of them may have entered the business, but Murray was the gunman," Cohen said.

Deputies found the car outside a nearby grocery store, sheriff's spokeswoman Keyla Concepcion said. They charged at the vehicle with guns drawn, but officers opening its doors and trunk found no one.

Florida Builder Appliances sells kitchen appliances, according to its Web site. Manny Lavernia, the branch manager at another store in Miami, said the company did not want to comment.

And the Lefties want to make workplaces a gun free zone :banghead:

 

[MD_Willington]

The prez of my companies isn't a "lefty" & we have a no gun/knife/weapon policy...

 

[Notch]

We just moved into a new building this month. A week ago durring a company meeting the gal "in charge of the building" mentioned that she needed to get a "no guns" sign up at the door. The CEO looked at her, paused for a moment and said " Just as long as you know it does'nt pertain to Mark or myself."

Of course the last place I worked was posted. I decided my safety was more important than the very slight chance that I may have been "found out".

 

[PedalBiker]

My only gripe is that if they're going to have a "no gun" policy then they should be responsible enough to take the means necessary to protect those they've disarmed. I work for a major technology company. They have pretty good security on their main campus, including guards, gates and cameras. I think that's a good compromise, though my preference would still be that they respect CCW licenses.

I think it's irresponsible disarm your employees, and then to leave them vulnerable to any wacko who wants to walk in off the street. It's like banning sprinklers and fire extinguishers.

 

[ZeSpectre]

I have a hard time chewing on this. The building I work in has more guns than you can imagine (federal agency).

Now I had to pass a microscope up the backside investigation to get my job and I am sometimes entrusted with information that could do FAR more damage than any lone gunman. I'm cleared, vetted, and trusted with all of this, but can I carry my sidearm at work? Not a CHANCE in hell! I even asked about a special permit once and you'd have thought I asked the supervisors to dance naked in the street from the reactions I got.

Can't wait for the big move coming up!

(Anybody got any good techie job leads in the Shenandoah Valle, VA area?)

 

[DoubleTapDrew]

I heard on the radio they are still doing a manhunt for the shooter. Had they allowed CCW at the workplace this (and he) might not have gone so far.

 

[Standing Wolf]

Jobs are easier to replace than lives.

 

[Cesiumsponge]

Duh, I know what the problem is.

They need more signs. Maybe the gunman didn't see the small "no weapons" sign posted out front or he snuck through a side entry without a sign.

 

[scurtis_34471]

My company bans guns on company property, but I work from home 95% of the time. The only bad thing is that the office is 60 miles away through mostly National Forest and I can't have a gun in the car. Hopefully the bill protecting the employee's right to keep gun in the car will pass.

 

[Car Knocker]

scurtis,

It is legal to have firearms in a National Forest in Florida:

HB-1029 Firearms in National Forests & State Parks

A bill to restore the right to possess firearms for self-defense and other lawful purposes while in National Forests and State Parks in Florida. Passed the Florida Legislature 5/2/06.

HB-1029 Sponsored by Representative Dennis Baxley (R-Ocala) in the House and Senator Bill Posey (R-Rockledge) in the Senate does the following:

1. Repeals the law that bans firearms in National Forests in Florida (s. 790.11, 790.12, 790.14)

2. Directs the Department of Environmental Protection (DEP) to repeal its rule that bans firearms in State Parks (rule 62D-2.014(10).

3. Requires that all other applicable firearms laws be followed.

4. Requires that a new rule be formulated by DEP that allows firearms in state parks and stipulates that firearms shall at all times be in the possession of a responsible party or properly secured within or to a vehicle or temporary housing, which shall include motor homes, travel trailers, recreational vehicles, campers, tents, or other enclosed structures, while in state parks.

The law being repealed is obsolete. There are public shooting ranges in Florida's National Forests. FWC officers teach the firearms portion of Hunter Safety courses at these ranges and have been very concerned about violating this obsolete law. Further, there homes in National Forests and the old law violates their firearms rights. The DEP regulation that prohibits firearms in state parks VIOLATES state law (790.33)

The bill passed the House 90-27 and passed the Senate 31-6. Signed into law by Governor Bush on 6/7/06.

http://www.thehighroad.org/showpost.php?p=2497009&postcount=1

 

[MechAg94]

I work in a hydrogen plant. I can sort of see why a no weapons policy would be good in that case. I don't like them telling me I can't leave it in the car though.

 

[Ditchtiger]

Don't ask, don't tell. I didn't ask if I can and don't tell that I do.

 

[Cesiumsponge]

I open carried in a national forest here when I went hiking/camping. I think it's national parks that have no firearm policies (at least Olympic National Park)

 

[ShooterMcGavin]

...They have pretty good security on their main campus, including guards, gates and cameras. I think that's a good compromise, though my preference would still be that they respect CCW licenses.

Do they offer you an armed security co-pilot on your commute to/from work? How about when you go out for lunch? How about going to the mall after work? Well, at least it's nice that you are safe while AT work.

My company has the same policy; no guns at work, including in your car. Consequently, my gun is locked up in my car We are in a secure building, so I don't risk carrying concealed inside the building.

 

[Jacka L Ope]

"Gun-free zones" are, seems to me, where a lot of such crimes are committed. Please folks - don't go "postal".

 

[thexrayboy]

When was the last time you heard of someone "going postal" or hunting down and executing an ex or some former co-workers at the police station, or at a gun store, or at the range. Never happens. These things only happen in places where the "deranged gunman" (sic) knows he will not meet any armed and effective resistance. The term gun free zone is synonymous with victim rich environment.

 

[busy_squirrel]

My company doesn't disallow gun carry but makes it obvious that if I "abuse the privelege" that i'll lose "the privelege".

What is that?! Everytime they mention it, I point them right to the State Law...

 

[GaryL]

"Gun-free zones" are, seems to me, where a lot of such crimes are committed. Please folks - don't go "postal".

The private gun club I belong to was once a trap range only, with leagues 1 or 2 nights a week during the summer. They had problems with vandals. Then they decided to add a rifle and pistol range about 15-20 years ago. Since then, membership is up, the range gets used a lot, and they've never had an issue with vandalism.

I'm sure its just a coincidence.

 

[scurtis_34471]

The problem with my taking a gun to work has nothing to do with the National Forest. I'm aware of the fact that they changed that law. Cars on state highways were exempt even before that. The problem is that my employer's policy states that I can be fired for denying them a search of my car and I can be fired if they find a gun in my car during a search. There is currently a pair of identical bills making their way through the Florida house and senate that would ban employers from doing that. What it basically states is that cars are private property and employers do not have the right to search them just because they are parked on company property. It was my representative who sponsored the bill in the house and I already wrote to my state senator. In the meantime, I only have to go to the office a few times a month.

The reason I mentioned the forest is that it means that most of my drive is in remote areas. I drive down S.R. 40 from Ocala to Barberville and then down S.R. 17 to Deland. There have been a number of murders in the forest in recent years and there are areas where even the nearest gas station is ten miles away. I don't particularly like knowing I could be stranded out their with no means of defense.