chaim
Member
Hmm, reading this thread, http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=161007
and especially Lupinus' post has me thinking.
Anyway, here is Lupinus' post:
I think he has a point. Why should people move somewhere that already has a lot of people who agree with them? Why the freestate movement in NH which is already conservative and pretty libertarian? That does not spread, but rather dillutes, our influence.
If we want the most impact, move to left leaning states that already have a decent core of conservatives (thus, being more likely to be successful).
NJ, CA and NY may have too many liberals to be successful. However, places like IL and MD may be prime candidates. I don't know the state politics, but I have trouble believing the majority of Kansas or Nebraska is really all that liberal and thus should be doable. What about New Mexico, why is it so different from neighboring Nevada or Arizona?
MD for instance has enough liberals (and the Dems here are very liberal) to currently control things. However, their margin is not that large anymore. Our current governor is a Republican. The prior governor only beat his (far right) Republican opponent by a few thousand votes (I don't have the energy to look it up but I recall Saurbrey losing by less than 10000 votes). This coming election, a Republican will actually have a chance at the Senate seat being vacated by Sarbanes (though it is something of a long shot).
Convince a few thousand right leaning gun owners to come here instead of Northern Virginia or PA, and stop some of the existing conservatives and gun owners from fleeing, and MD just may be salvagable. Other than Baltimore City, PG county and Montgomery county the rest of the state is relatively conservative and pro-gun already.
A concerted effort could work. Do it in one well selected state at a time, then moving on to one or two others, and I think we could sway several states. If we can be successful in even one state, that is one less state that is on the vanguard of gun control (definately thinking MD on this one) and one more state with conservative Senators, thus making things better for everyone else as well.
and especially Lupinus' post has me thinking.
Anyway, here is Lupinus' post:
"So, move conservative's into a state that's already reasonably conservative?
Tgo what point and purpose?
State's no long have the right's origionaly given then to make much change. Federal law is far to strong. And one state no matter how conservative on the federal level hold's the same power, no matter how conservative. Still only two senetor's. If you want to inact change, try moving them into liberal state's and being proactive there where it need's that help."
I think he has a point. Why should people move somewhere that already has a lot of people who agree with them? Why the freestate movement in NH which is already conservative and pretty libertarian? That does not spread, but rather dillutes, our influence.
If we want the most impact, move to left leaning states that already have a decent core of conservatives (thus, being more likely to be successful).
NJ, CA and NY may have too many liberals to be successful. However, places like IL and MD may be prime candidates. I don't know the state politics, but I have trouble believing the majority of Kansas or Nebraska is really all that liberal and thus should be doable. What about New Mexico, why is it so different from neighboring Nevada or Arizona?
MD for instance has enough liberals (and the Dems here are very liberal) to currently control things. However, their margin is not that large anymore. Our current governor is a Republican. The prior governor only beat his (far right) Republican opponent by a few thousand votes (I don't have the energy to look it up but I recall Saurbrey losing by less than 10000 votes). This coming election, a Republican will actually have a chance at the Senate seat being vacated by Sarbanes (though it is something of a long shot).
Convince a few thousand right leaning gun owners to come here instead of Northern Virginia or PA, and stop some of the existing conservatives and gun owners from fleeing, and MD just may be salvagable. Other than Baltimore City, PG county and Montgomery county the rest of the state is relatively conservative and pro-gun already.
A concerted effort could work. Do it in one well selected state at a time, then moving on to one or two others, and I think we could sway several states. If we can be successful in even one state, that is one less state that is on the vanguard of gun control (definately thinking MD on this one) and one more state with conservative Senators, thus making things better for everyone else as well.