Gun Purchase Receipt Retention Requirements?

[evan price]

The OP lives in Illinois. In Illinois, it is required that a firearms owner maintain a detailed ownership record for ten years. It is not a Federal law- it is an Illinois law.
Yet another way the People's Republic of Illinoisistan screw over gun owners.

Here is the Illinois pamphlet describing the process of gun ownership in their state:
http://www.isp.state.il.us/docs/9-049.pdf

 

[SCKimberFan]

^ After reading the pdf, all I can say is: WOW. :banghead:

Note to self: Never visit or move to IL.

 

[Loomis]

jrhines, texasrifleman

Link? Go find your own link.

My posts never said a thing about federal laws. State laws only. So your demands that I post links about federal laws are just silly. And your implication that my opinions and posts are just "noise" without links are silly too. Especially when my opinions happen to be correct.

 

[Coronach]

I'm sorry Neo-Luddite, but no LEO gets any information from me without a warrant. It's called the 5th amendment, (and the 4th too) which supersedes any state law.

The 5th provides protection against self incrimination. It does not protect you from testifying against someone else. And, I imagine that failure to comply with an IL peace officer's request under that statute could result in an "obstructing" charge. It would be interesting to see how that plays out in court.

Not saying it's right, mind you. Just saying that your refusal would probably not be without consequence.

Mike

 

[jrhines]

The problem is not what you know,,,

the problem is what you know for sure that just isn't so!
(Learned at my fathers knee, along with "you can't learn anything with your mouth open!"). I didn't claim anything, just asked for a citation. I never mentioned state or federal laws, just asked for a source for your information. I now understand the asking such a question of you is not to be tolerated, so in the future I'll treat your posts as sacrosanct. Your correct, I am silly!
As I said, I may be wrong.

 

[SCKimberFan]

The 5th provides protection against self incrimination. It does not protect you from testifying against someone else. And, I imagine that failure to comply with an IL peace officer's request under that statute could result in an "obstructing" charge. It would be interesting to see how that plays out in court.

True it does that. However, we also know that "anything you say, can and will be used against you in a court of law..."

All I am saying is that they can get a warrant if they want that info from me. I'm am not obstructing, I am availing myself of my rights protected by the Constitution. I am not refusing to give them the info, only w/o a warrant.

 

[Str8Shooter]

The thing about thermal paper receipts is dead on. I've had several receipts that I saved for warranty purposes that were stored in a filing cabinet folder in total darkness, but when I looked at them a couple years later, the text had faded so badly I couldn't read them. Best to make a photocopy while the receipt is new.

 

[TexasRifleman]

jrhines, texasrifleman

Link? Go find your own link.

My posts never said a thing about federal laws. State laws only.

You're doing that whole "can't comprehend the written word" thing again.

The OP asked about Federal laws. A couple of us answered about Federal laws, you then said we were incorrect and we were not.

No one said your post on STATE laws was incorrect or inappropriate. When you post about the law it's always helpful to link to the appropriate statute so you can't get twisted if someone wants to see the actual law.

Seriously, slow down and read all the words....

 

[wingman]

I'm keeping my receipts forever. They are scanned into JPG files and backed up.quOTE]

Same here I have files set up just for that purpose I do it on all tools not only
due to possible theft but for warranty service.

 

[AirForceShooter]

How come the buyer doesn't get a copy of the 4473?
That always bothered me.
But then I used to be a CPA and I love paper

AFS

 

[Gator]

In Illinois, it is required that a firearms owner maintain a detailed ownership record for ten years.

Not exactly. If you look at the pamphlet from the ISP you will see that the seller has to keep a record, not the buyer. Although, as an IL resident, I do keep receipts for the guns I buy.

OP, this just goes to show that gun shops employ lots of idiots, and G.A.T. has more than their share.

 

[Neo-Luddite]

One more thing - post the law, not just you saying it is so.

Oh, very well--let's have both then.


Illinois Compiled Statutes Ch. 430, ACT 65/3-- here is the link:


http://www.ilga.gov/legislation/ilc...tName=Firearm+Owners+Identification+Card+Act.

And Gator is right btw--only the seller need keep the record here in IL. I don't like it any more than the next guy-- but at least it is a de-centralized record held by fellow citizens and not in a database in Springfield. In Illinois we have "it could be worse" thoughts and battles in every legislative session.

 

[p2000sk]

I also have a set of receipt copies for the purpose of transporting a receipt with a weapon. When packing a rifle into a case, slip in the paper too.
That may be overly cautious...

If some person should ever say that I need to prove it is mine or
else blahblahblah... the proof is right here on this peice of paper.
An unlikely scenario, yet that receipt could terminate an unwanted conversation someday.

 

[Guns and more]

This reminds me of the two old guys on the Muppets arguing.

 

[Loomis]

Texas riflman:

No, sorry. You are mistaken again. My post about state laws came before you guys's posts.

 

[TexasRifleman]

deleted.... punching out.