Gun safe and rust

[Tadracket]

Jay, your ad says "The industry's only fail safe storage solution"

What if I accidentally spill something in the bag or zip it up on a really humid day?
Is there something in there to combat that?

 

[Mike1234567]

^^^ Not to mention sealing it up too soon after shooting therefore sealing in moisture cause by combustion.

If one disassembles and cleans and dries each firearm thoroughly on a "warm" hotplate? Okay... I can see sealing in a vacuum bag.

 

[Gordon_Freeman]

I don't think my gun socks are really a problem. I have to use them so my guns won't scratch each other.

I think the humidity was a little too high in the safe. It was in the 60-70% range in the summer. I'm beginning to doubt I had a problem because I'm only seeing rust on the Mosins. They most likely had that rust when I got them. Has anyone else found rust on the internals of Mosins soon after you bought them?

I'm still going to put a dehumidifier in the room and put more desiccant inside the safe. I got the humidity in the safe down to 53% today. I'm also putting a fresh coat of CLP on all my guns.

 

[Mike1234567]

Gordon, I can't be sure but, if you never noticed rust until recently, it leads me to believe the rust is "new". If it's new on your older firearms then your "new" firearms are at risk too. Again... just MHO.

 

[seed]

I've been using Bore-Store silicon-impregnated bags and socks for almost two decades in a safe with dessicant in a basement that has even flooded (soaked floor only) from time to time and have never had a single problem. I do prop up a crutch to increase the sealing ability of the rubber gasket lining on the safe door, but it is not exactly air-tight. I have reduced the flooding problem a lot by putting out those ugly corrogated drainage extensions on all the roof drains permanently. I keep an eye on the charge of the dessicant and pretty much recharge them every two weeks. There have been occasions over the years where I didn't have a dessicant in the safe for a period of a week during the rainy season and I have still never had a problem.

My point is that I just wanted to report that I have had good success with the silicon-impregnated socks and bags.

 

[seed]

I just wanted to add that I completely buy into the theory that some unfortunate souls have corrosive perspiration. Thankfully, neither I nor any of my friends who would be most likely to handle my guns at the range or elsewhere have this problem. Still, I do take the extra precaution of wiping down guns before I put them away and don't do stupid things like eat Doritos and then handle my guns and equipment with orange-colored finger tips. I have seen gun store employees do this, by the way.

 

[ZCORR Jay]

Jay, your ad says "The industry's only fail safe storage solution"

What if I accidentally spill something in the bag or zip it up on a really humid day?
Is there something in there to combat that?

Sorry for the delayed response. It really depends on what you spill into the bag. Battery acid for example will most likely cause damage, milk will make it smell funny, and a little oil never hurt. In all seriousness though, if say a little water spilled in you would want to make sure the VpCI molecules were on the gun first. When we wrap large equipment in the same material customers ask about condensation and as long as the item was in the bag first it shouldn't be a problem... I say shouldn't because 5oz vs 5 gallons will have vastly different effects.

In terms of humidity it is a non issue as long as the firearm was cleaned before being placed into the bag. You can read a detailed explanation of how our technology works and our frequently asked questions by visiting our How It Works Page.



Hope this helped.

 

[MuleRyder]

I had a revolver on a silicone impregnated gun cloth on a shelf in my gun cabinet. After a few months I picked it up and any surface of the revolver that was touching the cloth was starting to rust. I would not keep a gun in a sock, case or any other cloth.

 

[Gordon_Freeman]

Since this thread was resurrected I'll post an update. I have put a dehumidifier in the room and silica from the premium kitty litter in coffee cans inside the safe. The safe has been around 45 -50% humidity since. It was around 60% over the summer. I continue to use the gun socks. I have not seen any new rust. Now I believe that most of the rust I saw was already there on my Mosin Nagants before I got them. I plan on applying CLP to all of the guns every 3-4 months. Problem should be solved.

 

[billdeserthills]

There should still be gun socks available that are silicone treated, supposed to be very resistant to moisture. Generally when a gun safe is fireproof you will see more moisture being released from the fireproofing material as it dries out. As suggested I too use a goldenrod which is supposed to be between 125 & 150 deg. F . Cost is about $25-35 the hassle part is you'll
need to drill a small hole to threat the plug wire through, 1/4 to 5/16 should work fine. It is a one-time forever fix, far as I can see with my own guns & safes