Gun Show Defies State Law, Will Not Require Background Checks

[ZakCarter]

I thought this was seriously awesome!

“The patriot group Liberty For All is hosting the "Arms Expo 2015," a weekend gun show that will allow gun sales without requiring background checks, defying a new law in the state of Washington that expands background checks beyond federal requirements.

Yakima, Wash. – Despite a new state law that expands background checks beyond federal requirements, the patriot group Liberty For All is hosting a gun show that will allow gun sales without background checks.

Guns.com reported that Initiative 594 was “backed extensively by a core group of billionaires and national gun control groups,” and after it was passed in November 2014, it resulted in “protests that have drawn thousands.”

The rest of the article is at - http://truthinmedia.com/washington-gun-show-defies-state-law-will-not-require-background-checks/

And the event website is here - http://www.arms-expo.com/

See you there next year!

 

[ApacheCoTodd]

I'm always a little suspicious of new members posting like this right outa the gate.

So, I find the "facts" a bit tough to follow and of course suspicious.

It is of course not up to the promoter to allow or disallow the checks. Sounds like cheap sensationalizing advertising and doesn't paint enthusiasts in a particularly good light.

I say however, break the law deliberately and get burned... don't cry about it or assume the position of some sort of patriot or martyr.

Todd.

 

[ilbob]

It is not up to the gun show organizer to enforce the background check law. In fact, I don't see how the organizer could enforce it.

 

[Midwest]

I wonder if this is really an underground sting bought together by the ATF and State officials prompted by Bloomberg and Company. I could be wrong though, I been wrong before...but this smells.

But if I lived in Washington State I won't be attending that show. I don't agree with the Washington State Law but it is the law and at some point they will enforce it. If anyone goes to it, just be careful.
.

 

[calaverasslim]

I read something along these for either Oregon or Washington. Last month? Not sure.

I suspect that they won't push the non-licensed dealers to perform back ground checks.

I wonder how non-licensed dealers could do the back-ground checks.

 

[Midwest]

I read something along these for either Oregon or Washington. Last month? Not sure.

I suspect that they won't push the non-licensed dealers to perform back ground checks.

I wonder how non-licensed dealers could do the back-ground checks.

Just be sure it is not some "sting" by state and Federal officials. Bloomberg pulled this "stuff" while he was Mayor of NYC. Now that he isn't Mayor he has a lot of time on his hands.

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/12/09/nyregion/09guns.html?ref=fraudsandswindling&_r=0
.

 

[JSH1]

I wonder how non-licensed dealers could do the back-ground checks.

They can't. All sales must go through a FFL. (With exceptions for certain deals between family members)

The organizers of this show aren't risking anything, they are asking their customers to take the risk to prove a point for them.

 

[bikemutt]

There is no law in WA requiring gun shows to enforce background checks. Non sequitur.

 

[grund53]

Besides no one has been enforcing 594 since the state patrol pretty much stated it was unenforceable.

 

[Lord Teapot]

sounds like more crap for the left to use against us. the organizers should take the high road, and rethink their illegal policy, as it reflects poorly on law abiding gun owners everywhere. if it is in-fact illegal, i don't keep up on the law in lefty states, as i never visit them and avoid driving through them.

 

[leadcounsel]

Well, it will force something.

Either the state will fail to enforce the I594 law, which will make it toothless like the Federal marijuana laws here.

Or folks will get arrested and then we will have individuals who have standing for the court case that the SAF filed!

 

[JSH1]

It is interesting how they have crafted their event to thumb their noses at state law but stay within federal law. This expo only allows gun sales by private parties, FFL's are not allowed to sell guns. (They attend and sell other items). The ATF doesn't enforce state laws like Washington's requiring background checks for private sales. They would be interested in FFL's participating in an event where background checks are not allowed.

 

[coloradokevin]

Hmmm. While I'm definitely not a fan of the FFL requirement for private party sales, I have to admit that I wouldn't touch something like that with a ten foot pole. The risk is to the buyer/seller, not the gun show operator. And, it seems like such an event could certainly generate the interest of any state/local LE agency that might want a chance to do some undercover buy/busts for people who violate these laws.

 

[mgkdrgn]

I read something along these for either Oregon or Washington. Last month? Not sure.

I suspect that they won't push the non-licensed dealers to perform back ground checks.

I wonder how non-licensed dealers could do the back-ground checks.

Simple

They can't. Neither can Joe Blow ordinary citizen. All would have to go through an FFL. (who, in Washington state, would be required to collect sales tax on the deal)

 

[mgkdrgn]

Well, it will force something.

Either the state will fail to enforce the I594 law, which will make it toothless like the Federal marijuana laws here.

Or folks will get arrested and then we will have individuals who have standing for the court case that the SAF filed!

And a whole fresh crop of Felons for the fine folks of WA state to support with their tax dollars ...

 

[Speedo66]

Pretty loose definition of patriot.

Gun show producer opens mouth wide, takes no risks, and pats himself on the back for being a hero. FFL's are "encouraged" to not require background checks Somehow one of their speakers equates this with armed civil disobedience.

Yawn.

 

[bikemutt]

Simple

They can't. Neither can Joe Blow ordinary citizen. All would have to go through an FFL. (who, in Washington state, would be required to collect sales tax on the deal)

Actually in WA there is no requirement for the FFL dealer to collect sales tax on private transfers.