Gun stories (tall tales) from strangers

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My favorite is the fellow who wanted a .22-250 for hunting rabbits. Instead of shooting the rabbit with attendant damage, one shoots between the ears. The ears, being the most sensitive part of a bunny, transmits the shock wave and kills the rabbit without harming the meat.

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Maybe if the 458 Lott bullet had gone between the ears it would have killed the rabbit. I was a little low but still didn't ruin any edible meat.

There was the time when shooting a 460 Weatherby Magnum (with the Pendleton Brake) that a fly fell out of somewhere on to the table dead.
 
"....6.5x55 was so fast and flat that my old man's 300win mag wasn't much better at all"

Wellllll... if by "better", he meant "less drop and drift" at longer ranges he was correct at that time he said it... before the advent of insane BC .308 bullets the last 10 years or so. He was definitely onto something.
 
Yesterday this guy told me he was looking for M14-specific rounds.
What do you mean?
I mean they're American Eagle made just for M14s and they also have some ammo made just for M1 Garands.
Huh?
So I thought he was full of it until he showed me - sure enough; we had a box of .30-06 American Eagle that says on the box in big letters on the front something like "Ammo for M1 Garands"
I thought he had meant that these were special types of ammo that you had to buy in order to shoot a Garand or M14. It was, of course, just FMJ ammo optimized for them. Had to explain that the rest is just marketing. He could shoot any 7.62x51 or for that matter, light .308 win.
 
Yesterday this guy told me he was looking for M14-specific rounds.
What do you mean?
I mean they're American Eagle made just for M14s and they also have some ammo made just for M1 Garands.
Huh?
So I thought he was full of it until he showed me - sure enough; we had a box of .30-06 American Eagle that says on the box in big letters on the front something like "Ammo for M1 Garands"
I thought he had meant that these were special types of ammo that you had to buy in order to shoot a Garand or M14. It was, of course, just FMJ ammo optimized for them. Had to explain that the rest is just marketing. He could shoot any 7.62x51 or for that matter, light .308 win.


The gas system on the M14/M1A is pretty forgiving - but the M1 Garand needs specific powder burning rate and bullet weights so as not to exceed the system design. Thus the companies marking their ammo as suitable for the M1. More of a problem now, as the surplus ammo is pretty well dried up.
 
Yeah, the Garand stuff is 147s - I understand no one needs bent op rods. We didn't have the 7.62 stuff but it is made by federal.
 
"....6.5x55 was so fast and flat that my old man's 300win mag wasn't much better at all"

Wellllll... if by "better", he meant "less drop and drift" at longer ranges he was correct at that time he said it... before the advent of insane BC .308 bullets the last 10 years or so. He was definitely onto something.

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Idk with same ammo type there's a pretty big difference when talking factory hunting loads.
 
Yesterday this guy told me he was looking for M14-specific rounds.
What do you mean?
I mean they're American Eagle made just for M14s and they also have some ammo made just for M1 Garands.
Huh?
So I thought he was full of it until he showed me - sure enough; we had a box of .30-06 American Eagle that says on the box in big letters on the front something like "Ammo for M1 Garands"
I thought he had meant that these were special types of ammo that you had to buy in order to shoot a Garand or M14. It was, of course, just FMJ ammo optimized for them. Had to explain that the rest is just marketing. He could shoot any 7.62x51 or for that matter, light .308 win.
I don’t know a whole lot about it, but there is specific load data in reloading manuals for “ service rifles” garands and 7.62x51
I’m shocked there’s not “fluted chamber” ammo. A cetme will lock down when it rips the rim off a commercial 308 case, especially federal.
 
"Idk with same ammo type there's a pretty big difference when talking factory hunting loads."

As I said, the key being "for the time" - at the time the guy said that (presumably years ago), the BCs of .30 cal hunting bullets sucked, and the tables would look nothing like that.

And 140s get 2700-2750 from 6.5x55, not 2530, so you're around 200 fps off there to start with. That's *before* you start hot-rodding the round.
 
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"Ammo for M1 Garands"
I've run into more than a few who are certain that the "M1A" is the improved version of the M-1 Garand.
I've even heard this coupled with "tassa why the tank izza M1A1, so theys not confused." (I don't believe I've ever confused a 60 ton AFV with a 11# rifle . . . ) Pointing out that the Marines fielded M1A just causes puzzled looks.
 
Well we've all heard how a .357 magnum will penetrate an engine block. One time a guy I know, (whom I try to avoid,) was telling me about an instance where the police somewhere shot and killed a motorist because said person drove at high speed through some unauthorized area. He tells me that back in the day, when he went through rookie school with the Dalton, Georgia, police department, that they all took turns shooting at moving cars with their .357 magnum pistols, instantly bringing them to a stop. Right, like a department would have enough spare cars for everyone in the class to shoot one up. Then he wants to know why the police don't ditch their .40 calibers for .357 magnums, for just such instances, to save on bloodshed, when they could have just shot the car in the engine, at high speed mind you, and brought it to a stop, and peaceably arresting the driver.
After enduring all of this nonsense, all I could think of to respond with was, "Why shoot a perfectly good car and ruin it, when you can just take out the driver instead?"
 
After enduring all of this nonsense, all I could think of to respond with was, "Why shoot a perfectly good car and ruin it, when you can just take out the driver instead?"

My immediate thought is that a car going, "clank, clank, rattle, clunk," can still run people over (that assumes that you actually hit a weak point, like the timing chain cover).
 
Even worse than the tall tales are the "well, my daddy and my grand-daddy did it this way." Never even realizing that daddy was wrong.

Or the guy that says, "well, I saw an article by Igor Schnozloski in "Weapons of war and other destructive things." It must be true cuz he's a famous writer."
 
Heard a store clerk tell a customer that he didn't want to use bronze brushes on his barrel as it would score and scratch up the steel and take out the grooves. He then proceeded to tell the same customer to use a penny and some alcohol and oil mixed together to 'rub off the rust' on the outside because the penny wouldn't scratch up the barrel.

In another store overheard two customers trying to decide which type of powder to use in a black powder rifle. They were on the reloading aisle and were debating whether to use red dot or blue dot and whether 50 grains would be enough.
I kept waiting to read about two nimrods blowing themselves up.
 
Heard a store clerk tell a customer that he didn't want to use bronze brushes on his barrel as it would score and scratch up the steel and take out the grooves. He then proceeded to tell the same customer to use a penny and some alcohol and oil mixed together to 'rub off the rust' on the outside because the penny wouldn't scratch up the barrel.

In another store overheard two customers trying to decide which type of powder to use in a black powder rifle. They were on the reloading aisle and were debating whether to use red dot or blue dot and whether 50 grains would be enough.
I kept waiting to read about two nimrods blowing themselves up.
Did you not try to advise them that the powder they were looking at would be very dangerous for their intended use?
 
He then proceeded to tell the same customer to use a penny and some alcohol and oil mixed together to 'rub off the rust' on the outside because the penny wouldn't scratch up the barrel.
I've successfully used the penny trick, albeit without the alcohol. It works to some degree; and as copper is softer than steel, I didn't notice any scratching, though I did lose some bluing. You need to use an all copper penny, though--something minted before, I believe, 1978. Were I to do it again, I think I'd opt for a small length of copper tubing, cut diagonally and deburred. Just one guy's experience. YMMV, and you will lose some bluing, so be careful.
 
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