Guncrafter Industries and the .50 GI

[daehawc]

Ok gents, I have a couple questions.

I am looking into maybe buying a .50 GI glock conversion for my 21sf. From reading the specs you have the option of throwing a 185gr .50cal round at 1200fps, a 230gr .50cal at 1000fps, and a 300gr at 700fps.

The first two are essentially the same as shooting high pressure .45 rounds from doubletap but larger. While the ft-lbs of energy remain the same what and how much benifit is gained by throwing the larger diameter round at the same weight and speed? It would have to be better right? How about a 300gr round going slower? The calculator says it has only 326ft-lbs but my gut says it would be hitting pretty hard with a huge chunk of lead like that.

It seems like the calculations for energy leave out a very important consideration of size as I'm looking at it but then again, math didn't fare well with me in college.

Lastly, I may buy a .50GI model 2 from them with the .45ACP conversion so I can shoot both. From a strictly quality perspective, how well are the guncrafter industries 1911's built? Are they on par with the wilsons and the nighthawk customs made in the same price range?

Any advise from anyone with actual experience with this round / company would be appreciated. Thanks.

 

[RevolvingGarbage]

http://www.ammunitiontogo.com/catalog1/index.php/cName/pistol-ammo-50-gi

Guncrafters ammo seems to come in 275 grain @875 FPS and 300 grain FMJ @700 FPS varieties. What ammo manufacturer were you looking at?

 

[Drail]

Personally I think that trying to shoot large heavy bullets like a .50 GI from a polymer framed gun which is heavy on top and light on the bottom is going to be a self defeating exercise. Guncrafters products are top notch.

 

[General Geoff]

.50GI? I think I'd rather get a wheelgun in .45 Colt, if I was after those kinds of ballistic numbers.

 

[APIT50]

The thing that they are leaving out is momentum when you are shooting really big heavy bullets. Larger diameter bullet = Larger diameter hole in target

 

[bradfromearth]

checkout brassfetcher.com and the 50 gi they have a gelating test of a special copper round that penetrated 10 inches and sperad out to one inch +

This copper round is now for sale and comes in a 230 grain and 185 grain. The test mentioned above is with the 185 grain. I can only speculate that the 230 grain projectile will expand the same only past 12 inches. The expanded round is truly amazing. it looks like a propeller. You can see pictures on the website.

I just bought a g 21 just so I could get the conversion some day.

This thing could tun out to be the most devastaing self defense round ever for a handgun that is reasonable to carry and shoot.

I am keeping a close eye out for testing of the 230 grain copper round.

People tell me not to get it because it is proprietary and you might not be able to get ammo one day. My response is that I don't care so long as I have a small amount of it for defense and some for practice once in a while.

I carry a crossbody leather bag from Coronado Leather so carrying concealed is no problem. I am excited and following them closely.

 

[bradfromearth]

http://www.brassfetcher.com/index_files/Page729.htm

Here is the link to the brassfetcher test showing the 185 grain copper. I could not find any images on the GI site. Possibly they took them down?

 

[bradfromearth]

http://www.guncrafterindustries.com/50gi-chp.shtml

Here are the pics. I just could not find them from their site..