Guns 007 SHOULD have had...

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Krinkov with the stock folded slug behind his back under the jacket? :confused: :evil:

More seriously, stick with the Walther.
 
HK Model 4... in the Q manual for the James Bond Roleplaying game an additional barrel/magazine was offered in 9mm Mak as well as .380, .32, .25 and .22. Outfit the pistol depending on the mission. (Other than the 9mak barrel this pistol exists.)

Of course any 'behind the iron curtain' mission Bond would have use a Tok or Mak or Vopo Luger... or picked up a gun after using mad kung fu skills.

Fleming's Bond handled all manner of firearms... but it would seem likely that a single stack 9mm would be the most useful item in the firepower/vs conceal under a tux--the P7 made it into the Q manual but honestly it was given stats 'too good' for the game.

Then again the Men from Uncle favored the Walther P-38K... large for a single stack but you could bolt all kinda goodies (scopes, extended mags) onto it.

By today's standards a .22 AR7 is wimpy... imagine an AR-7 style rifle in .223 with a silencer.... that breaks down into a camera tripod or something.
 
Given his style (when attacking), I'd've given him a Liberator pistol. :)

Failing that, a BHP or Radom would be cool. Ooo! A Webley! :D

Using a PPK in .32 for all those years, and winning, is all part of what makes him so cool. You give him a different gun, you change the image and change history. If Bond went around with a Stechkin APS, blazing away at everything, it'd lose a lot of respect from me.

The key with Bond is suave, not slaughter.
 
By today's standards a .22 AR7 is wimpy... imagine an AR-7 style rifle in .223 with a silencer.... that breaks down into a camera tripod or something.

Forget 007, give me one of those.

jmm
 
If I was gonna change his gun, Id only see him with a P232. Very BOND-LIKE and a much better gun than the Walther IMO.
 
A SIG P230/232 stainless would be in character for bond. A small, easily concealed, classy gun with the sparkle of stainless :D
 
Since after 40 years he still survives the gun battles I think the PPK does serve him well. If it ain't broke why fix it?
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I agree. If I could shoot that well, against numerous attackers, one handed, sometimes from the hip, there is no way anyone would ever switch whatever gun I was used to.
 
Remember, Bond is not a "spy." He's, more-or-less, an assassin.

Although in the books the only real 00- criteria was to have had to kill on an assignment, and not necessarily on orders, just in the course of business. Which sort of points up the Matt Helm line. Most spies snuck around and didn't get into fights.

Bond had had to kill someone once, and since he had, he was considered qualified to do so again.
 
Covert operations were always portrayed as using small guns. I think it was wrong when he was given the larger calibers and it was right to go back to the PPK. It was never about firepower, but to be silent and stealthy.
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I go along with this... he needs the PPK and it should be in .32 ACP. The point that's being missed is that James Bond 'really could' make the fantasy shots that we talk about when the subject of bullet placement comes up!

Does anyone here doubt that Bond could make 5 or 6 headshots in a row at 25 yards, under pressure? A .32 is fine for a guy like that. Put a spare mag in his left, front inside pocket and he's ready for anything. :)

StrikeEagle
 
Guns Bond should NOT have had . . .

How about that S&W Mod 29 he had in "Live and Let Die". Awful film and the decision to use a .44 Mag is only one of the poor decisions that made it awful. A tricked out Colt Gov't Model would have been much better.
 
The point that's being missed is that James Bond 'really could' make the fantasy shots that we talk about when the subject of bullet placement comes up!
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Like shooting down a helicopter with an AR-7 in From Russia with Love.
 
Been involved in this debate before. My suggestion for replacing the PPK is the Sig 239 in 9mm. Why? Not much larger than the Walther, so concealment won't be an issue. Looks better than a Glock, more style, etc. And a 9mm because it is more of an international caliber. The .40 and .45 are just too American.

The Kahr is a good choice, but again it may suffer from being too American, while Sig is European.
 
Being the P99 lover that I am, I'd say they currently have it right.

That said, the P7M8 would be the logical mass production choice.

I've always thought of Bond as the "so flashy he's invisible" kinda spy, so he should have a Korth autoloader.
 
actually, he shoots the grenade-tosser in the chopper who has just pulled a pin... oops.

then the spectre guys go kaboom in the chopper.
 
ghost squire said:
What about a SIG P210? Other than that definately a HK P7
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He did use a P210 in the final assault in "On Her Majesty's Secret Service." At least he has one in the publicity stills. It's been a while since I've seen the movie.
 
cdsdss said:
Watching the Bondathon on Spike got me thinking about this topic. As lovable as Q was, he should have been keel-hauled for keeping 007 armed with that Walther PPK for all those years. True, it replaced the (even worse) Beretta Jetfire in Dr. No, but come on...a 7.65mm single-column pistol for an operative in 1998 (Tomorrow Never Dies, when it was replaced)?

In the books, he had some better arms--after Fleming passed away John Garner armed with a Browning Hi-Power, an H&K VP70, P7, ASP 9mm before Raymond Benson gave him the damn Walther again.

So...what guns should Bond have carried throughout his cinematic career? Criteria are: relatively lightweight, compact enough not to print through a tuxedo, and European or at least exotic (007 cannot carry a 1911A1...just ain't right).

My choices:

The ASP (for sheer exoticism), the P7, the P5 Compact, and I'm cool with the P99.

Let me know what you all think!

CDS
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A P7 would have been a perfect Bond gun. It's flat profile would have made tuxedo concealment easy.

He would have had to cope with a miserable 8 round magazine capacity vice the 20 or 30 rounds the PPK carried, but he could have managed. ;)
 
You would think that a super spy, who within his own agency was frequently referred to by code-number, would be smart enough to lie when asked what his name was. Is it so hard to just blurt out "MacDonald. Chuck MacDonald." when playing baccarat with the evil villan? Covert generally doesn't mean winning money by the fistful at casinos, squiring shapely birds around town and pronouncing your actual name at the slightest provocation. That said, he should stick with the Walther, as his ability to shoot lasers from his watch and Hellfire missiles from his headlights pretty much makes up for any shortcomings of that pistol, real or percieved.
 
How does Bond get through airport screening with that P99? I guess the "Chunnel" minimizes his problems that way as he can drive his Aston Martin into Europe (actually - take the auto train). He still has to get through French Customs. At this point of firearms development, I think he should have a Kahr PM9. He's a "double O" but to use a pistol he should be close and generally for defensive purposes. Otherwise all the toys that Q gives him works for long distance or remote control "eliminations". :cool:
 
He used his real name because his cover was his real identity, he just claimed to work for different jobs. Though usually it was Universal Exports. Harder to slip up on that under interrogation, there's only one lie.

The 007 moniker was as much or more a job title than a "code number" per se. He was number 7 in the 00 section of the Secret Service, the section of assassins.

That said, you'd think a SPECTER or SMERSH analyst might put together his name with all those secret labs exploding. :evil:
 
Here's a question: Just because he's "licensed to kill" in the completion of an assignment, does that mean that he's required to? Unless he's sent specifically to liquidate someone, the idea is to complete the assignment and get out. In "From Russia with Love" the job was to get the code machine. In "Dr. No" the job was to find out what was toppling U.S. missiles. Obviously when attacked you retaliate viciously and decisively, but what if he wasn't attacked. He'd get the machine or report his finding about Dr. No to M. In the latter there was a time constraint so his follow up orders would be to "handle it". Bottom line is why get messy if you don't have to.:cool:
 
he should have a six shooter on his side and ride a horse and a poncho

Wait : then his name would be Clint
never mind
 
Soviet PSM 5.45x18mm w/ small suppressor
suitably exotic, cold war era, and as stylish but technically superior to his PPK. let's say he got it from anya amasova in The Spy Who Loved Me (though the film depicted her with a beretta jetfire or bobcat).

I liked seeing him with a Beretta 92 in License to Kill, maybe a Beretta 92 Compact Type M (the single stack). It looks good and it's very contraversially the most reliable auto pistol in the world, besides he likes Berettas and carried one for years (it never failed him, the movie dialogue was a oversimplified version of what happened in the books). They've played around with switching his gun before (the Walther P5 in two movies), it's probably because small guns don't always photograph well, they can look like a toy if a person is very tall etc.
 
obiwan,

True enough. It seems in the books (save The Spy Who Loved Me) that he got sent in after death (or nukes) was already on the line.
 
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