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Guns and more guns - IHT

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by igor, Apr 27, 2007.

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  1. igor

    igor Member

    Jan 3, 2003
    Bravo Time Zone

    This is such an invitation for a debunker... :banghead: :D
  2. chris in va

    chris in va Member

    Mar 4, 2005
    Louisville KY
    Lovely. Yet another person that feels LEO's are there to protect you.
  3. Fast Frank

    Fast Frank Member

    Feb 17, 2007
    Houston, Texas (Woodlands)
    I've participated in a couple of debates on line here lately, and the anti- crowd always seems to pull this trick.

    Somehow, they either confuse or deliberately alter the message "Allow the good guys to defend themselves" into "Give everybody a gun".

    This is always followed by predictions of blood in the streets and gunfights as far as the eye can see.

    From the text above:

    I don't know where they get that from, and I don't think any pro- gun source anywhere supports the idea of supplying weapons to anybody that wants to carry one away.

    I suspect that this somehow stems from some naive attitude that doesn't recognize that there is a very real difference between the good guys and the bad guys.

    I have been trying to clear this up by pointing out that the words "Give everybody a gun" have never been uttered, and then follow that up by pointing out that there is an existing framework already in place that weeds out the bad guys and allows the good guys to have defensive weapons.

    I've also pointed out that these honest and reliable citizens that not only have the legal right to defend themselves, but also have the skills and equipment to do so are the very same people that they stand next to in line at the supermarket, or sit behind at the movies.

    Pointing out that there hasn't been mass bloodshed from these people so far doesn't seem to register with these folks.

    It's very much like assuring a six year old that there is no boogie man in the closet...

    They hear me, but they don't believe me, and opening the door and showing them the truth is not evidence enough to change their minds.

    So far, the best I have been able to accomplish is to get them to stop spewing gun control rhetoric all over the web.

    I believe that small victory is only because I'm more prepared and dedicated than they are, and they get tired of getting "Shot out of the saddle" over and over with the truth.

    I can only hope that perseverance will eventually make a difference.
    Last edited: Apr 27, 2007
  4. ATW525

    ATW525 Member

    Aug 8, 2006
    Colebrook, NH
    Obviously written by somebody who's never really had his :cuss: on the line.
  5. jamz

    jamz Member

    Nov 28, 2003
    Seacoast NH
    While it's a true fact, he doesn't seem to realize that big portion of society is, and will most likey forever be, decidedly uncivilized.
  6. Im283

    Im283 Member

    Mar 21, 2007
    Knox County, TN.
    Most writers really do not care what you think of their ideas or work. What they want it feedback, it is something they can show their editor to prove they are being read and what they write stirs thought. It provides a level of job security.

    The best reaction I ever found to do with these types is to ignore them.
  7. Sage of Seattle

    Sage of Seattle Member

    May 24, 2006
    So far, I don't see a problem. Sounds reasonable to me...

    Haven't there been recent threads on THR describing newer, more draconian gun control laws enacted within the past few weeks? In Illinois and New York, if I'm not mistaken.

    It's kind of funny in a way how THE GUN LOBBY wants all of these things and not regular gun owners interested in their freedoms.

    Now I KNOW this author is smoking crack, because I can prove beyond a shadow of doubt that MY guns CAN tell the difference. They whisper it to me every day...

    Now my car, on the other hand.... that thing will run over any old body that stands in front of it.

    I have also trained in the use of deadly force and I can apply it in very rationally defined situations. Someone tries to hurt me or my family and I'm afraid for my life or theirs, then I shoot the SOB. Very rational.
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