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guns from pawn shops

Discussion in 'Legal' started by thomis, Aug 22, 2012.

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  1. Davek1977

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    Exactly, they have access to do background checks for buyers, but not to run traces on serial numbers and whatnot in an attempt to ID stolen guns....NCIS checks out PEOPLE, not the guns they are buying
     
  2. smalls

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    I never said anything about NCIS. I said NCIC. But, I've been trying to research more, and I cannot find where I saw it.
     
  3. Citizen_soldier22

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    I work at a pawn shop. Not positive if it's state law or store policy, but we keep buys for 8 days before putting them on the floor and pawns will be in the back for a minimum of 61 days. Every SINGLE item that comes in the shop has a second signed and fingerprinted document with a description of the goods along with any serial numbers. These sheets are given to the local Sheriff's office daily. Everything we take in has a holding period long enough for law enforcement to run serial numbers.

    Long story short, you should have no second thoughts about purchasing a firearm from a pawn shop. And I'm sure even if by some chance a gun did turn up hot, the shop would either refund you the money or give you in store credit and a good deal on something else.
     
  4. PRM

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    LOL - now that would depend on whose name it was and if credible documentation could verify it. Guns with connections to historical persons do have extreme collector value (historical person and collector dependent).

    One of the James family stories, is that Zerelda James (mother of Jesse) sold a number of guns later in her life that were alleged to have belonged to her son. Many, that were manufactured after his demise. She also sold stones off of his grave to tourists (replenished as need).

    http://www.americanrifleman.org/ArticlePage.aspx?id=1545&cid=9
     
  5. KenW.

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    Pawn and secondhand shops in my state have to participate in a statewide database of all their transactions. The DB is connected to the criminal justice information system, and runs the serial numbers automatically against NCIC.

    I'm the property crimes detective for the County Sheriff's Office. I get calls from all over the state when one of my shops gets a"hit" and it's found by another person in the property crimes realm. Smart criminals in Utah do not use pawn shops.

    Other States may not be quite as effective.
     
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    Ken, what state are you in? This may have been what I was trying to find. I knew I read it somewhere, and I must have mistaken it for a nation wide deal.
     
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  8. Double Naught Spy

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    Yeah, not NCIS. That would be a TV show about NCIS. You transposed the letters. Pawnshops generally don't have access to NCIC databases for stolen goods. They have access to NICS, however, for the background checks, as do gun shops.

    So Ken's Utah people have access to a state system, undoubtedly run through law enforcement in the state. Would that be right, Ken?
     
  9. KenW.

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    Utah pawnbrokers pay $250 every year to operate the db, law enforcement agencies pay $2 per sworn officer/deputy to access it. The State Division of Commerce actually runs it.
     
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  10. smalls

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    Too much turkey, today. :eek:
     
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