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Guns in Hollywood and cheesiness

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Silent Snail, you are correct. The 91/30 PU was a production expedient. Kelly's Heroes was filmed in Czechslovakia in 1969-70, and the PU was still in service there at the time. At least the Tiger was a real Tiger, not an M48 Patton like in 'Battle of the Bulge" ;)
 
I have to think that somewhere, out there on the web, is a forum populated by directors, foley artists, editors, special effects guys, practical effects guys, PA's, technical advisors, stunt men, prop foremen, and other assorted behind the scenes workers who sit around carping about how people nitpick their movies over little things that, if corrected would cause the budget of their films to be larger than the GDP of India.
 
Yep,

The bottomless mag 'o ammo is almost always an editing thing.

Regardless of the extent of their firearms knowledge the people on the set do realize that guns can only hold a certain amount of rounds.

They shoot multiple takes at multiple angles over the course of x number of days and then take that footage back to editing.

And when all the different takes are edited together it just seems like the guns never run out of ammo.

Of course it wouldn't hurt if they just showed a guy reloading every now and again. Just a one or two second shot. It does not have to be every combatant just one or two guys early in the movie to set the fact that they do reload and be done with it. That would be fine unless you are making an uber-tac movie then you must shoe the reloads a jam being being cleared and so on.
 
Red Dawn. Did anyone ever notice that right after the first time the boys traded shots with the commies, that Jed walks up to the truck with his 45 single action and points it at the commies head......his thumb never moves, but you can hear it cocking. :D

And in one of the Terminator movies....on the .45....cocked, uncocked, and cocked. The only problem was that it seemed to be doing it all by itself. :uhoh:
 
Any movie or tv show where the impacting bullets throws a shower of sparks....

Jaws where the scuba tank blows up.
 
The Bourne Identity, in the scene where the assassin attempts to kill Bourne in his apartment, when his subgun runs out of ammo we are treated to a LOVELY *clickclickclickclickclick* as if it ran out of ammo and somehow continued to cycle. Its a TINY little scene and it goes by so fast that noone else seems to notice, but everytime i hear it i die a little. It was actually anoying enough to kinda screw up an otherwise entertaining movie for me just because it was SO absurdly ignorant. One can excuse endless magazines and firing from slidelock as mistakes in the editing room. But, in that particular scene someone actually made the effort to DELIBERATELY make that sound effect and insert it into the movie. A conscious act of ignorance is significantly more frustrating than an honest mistake.

The very same thing happened in the season finale of 24, and it completely took me out of the show. (the fact that Keifer strikes me as a real wanker doesnt help much either).
 
Silent Snail, you are correct. The 91/30 PU was a production expedient. Kelly's Heroes was filmed in Czechslovakia in 1969-70, and the PU was still in service there at the time. At least the Tiger was a real Tiger, not an M48 Patton like in 'Battle of the Bulge"
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The Tigers were modded T34s. No operational Tigers available to use for the movie is my understanding.

Despite all of the minor errors in the movie, Kelly's Heroes is still one of my all time favorites.
 
Mr. and Ms. Smith...

Not really gun handling per se, but the tactics by the swat team at the end of the movie. Both Smiths run into a tiny little shed with one way in and one way out. The swat team goes upstairs to some rafters, is on the floor, and all of them seem to have their weapons aimed at the door waiting for the Smiths to come out.

Anyone alive whould have lit up the shed with several mags of ammo as soon as they went in. The entire swat team could have won the battle if the guys on the rafters peppered the tin can with a good amount of full auto fire.

Then The Smiths bust out and kill all the armoured swat members with fully automatic 9mms. That is a lot of headshots.
 
1.) The preferred method of firing an M-16, AK -47, etc. is from the hip on full auto in almost every 80's action movie - and making perfect hits on bad guys -at any distance!

2.) Using an open car door for cover :rolleyes: with impacting rounds just "sparking" off of the metal - not going through.

3.) Firing a rifle from the shoulder with absolutely no rearward motion to the shooter's shoulder from recoil. (Just watched Saving Private Ryan a few days ago - Soldier firing an M1, pop pop pop pop etc. Ping!)

4.) Like others have said - a gun clicking multiple times when empty. :banghead:

Ever see John Carpenter's "Vampires"? In a scene James Woods is being dragged by a winch/cable with a vampire on top of him, blasting away with a Ruger Semi-auto. The slide stays locked in battery (it never moves) with multiple shots fired.

Oh well. That's Hollywood.


--meathammer
 
Bad Boys 2 ( I was forced to see it by my then GF), the whole movie is firearm retarded, but the scene that torqued my screws the most was where Wil Smith uses his (presumably) loaded custom Glocks to threaten his partners daughters new boyfriend. Aiming it at the kid and waving it around, if I remember right, with his finger on the trigger.

On whole the movie sucked really, really bad.

Jubei
 
Eh, first few times I saw KH I thought they were real Tigers too until about 6 or 7 years ago.
 
Bad Boys 2 ... where Wil Smith uses his (presumably) loaded custom Glocks to threaten his partners daughters new boyfriend. Aiming it at the kid and waving it around, if I remember right, with his finger on the trigger.
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Well now, if you were a "concerned parent", wanting to make sure an innocent young girl's new boyfriend knew, without question, what he might be dealing with if he's not completely proper, don't you think waving a gun in his face WITH your finger on the trigger might have a bit more "shock value", than following the 4 rules would? :evil:

And yes, I completely agree with judgement of the final scene of Mr. and Mrs. Smith.
 
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