GUNS STOLEN in AZ

[jay21]

One of our fellow AZ dealers was robbed today in Maricopa. This is a friends shop, and this is/was his ENTIRE inventory after being open less than 3 weeks. Please spread the word! If you come across any of the following firearms please notify the Pinal County Sheriff or ATF Phoenix Field Office.

KISS TACTICAL KISS-15 K-0002
KISS TACTICAL KISS-15 K-0011
QUENTIN DEFENSE QD-15 QD-0021XXX
CAI DRACO SBR 1971 DG-3180
COLT POLICE POSITIVE 659341
BERETTA 92SB C18182Z
IO INC HELLCAT 9125
TAURUS JUDGE F236167
SIG P220 G276302
COBRAY PM-12 12-0014124
SIG P250 EAK032517
SIG P250 EAK048267
SPRINGFIELD 1903 3273177
SIG P220 G248135
GLOCK 27 1EVN812US
H&K USP40 22-54874
TACTICAL SOLUTIONS SUPPRESSOR TSS11-03576 22LR
YHM SUPPRESSOR C910911 9MM
HERITAGE MFG E90697
YHM SUPPRESSOR X3747 223
RUGER 10-22 357-31213
RAIKAL MP220 1112483B
GLOCK 22 FHE235
TAURUS MOD 85 XC66062
INTERTEC TEC 22 WALTHER P22 L212131

 

[armoredman]

Damn - you get the word out to the pawn shops, too? There's a little pawn shop down in Florence and two over here in Casa Grande they might try to fence to, being out of the way.

 

[billdeserthills]

Sounds like you'll hafta keep your eye on backpage too, probably in several cities.

 

[BemidjiDweller]

Jezz, when the guy who stole all that gets caught, he will be in a world of hurt. I'll post this on MNGunTalk if its not already there.

 

[wannabeagunsmith]

Hope the scumbag gets brought to justice.

 

[FIVETWOSEVEN]

The silencers alone will get him 10 years from my understanding.

 

[jay21]

Thank you all. We (i am a friend of the shop owner these are NOT mine) are trying everything we can. Please spread as far and wide as you can except for Backpage. This is the 6th (i think) shop in Az to be hit recently, and the 3rd I know if in this area. The theives are getting more aggressive and soon bodies will be left as evidence from one side or the other. I would like to avoid that at all costs. PLEASE help him out, without recovery of some of the firearms the shop will have to be closed within 60 days. Thank you all very much.


And yes the suppressors can get them 10 years each, and some of the AR's are full auto samples, the DRACO is an SBR. These are some major items out there.

Some more info from questions asked on other forums: The items were all stored off site per BATFE storage variance. many of the guns we're "on consignment" and insurance is ONLY covering instock (company guns)...all insurance money is being paid to consigners. I believe (gut feeling) he was tailed and tracked for the off-site and snatch and grabbed soon there after. ATF and Pinal County Sheriffs Office have been contacted and are helping with pawn and FFL shops in the area. I believe due to the FA, Suppressors, and SBR's these will either be taken south or moved face to face.

 

[Holling]

If they are headed south I'm sure Eric Holder is personally on the case.

 

[armoredman]

Yeah, ASSISTING WITH THE MOVE!

Yep, the NFA stuff is either going to Mexico or Phoenix street gangs. Since it was stored off site, definitely sounds targeted. Wish I could help more.

 

[FIVETWOSEVEN]

How were these guns stored?

 

[quartermaster]

Hopefully LE will find something. That stinks!

 

[jay21]

How were these guns stored?

I do not know, and I am not wanting to question the guy.....god knows he is double and triple guessing every move made up to this point

 

[Holling]

He has been asked several times on another board and has not answered.

 

[Panzercat]

Sounds like you'll hafta keep your eye on backpage too, probably in several cities.

Definitely this, but only if they're stupid. Gunauction or somewhere else would be a safer way to fense this stuff.

 

[OARNGESI]

Wow this is horrible i hope he gets this stuff back i live in casa grande and will double check anything i buy.

Did i read it right the atf will make him close if he dont get the guns back?

 

[jay21]

Not ATF he just has no money to replace inventory and the insurance is not paying much.

 

[Holling]

It appears that he stored his inventory............IN THE TRUNK OF HIS CAR!

http://maricopa360.com/?p=12055

 

[BRE346]

Armed thugs rob gunshops and pawn shops in Houston and get away with 742 guns. All to arm criminals. We law-abiding citizens need to arm ourselves more and more and keep watch.

 

[hang fire]

IMO, the guns are now in Mexico, so kiss them adios.

 

[dprice3844444]

hard way to get tax deductions

 

[Holling]

Think of the civil liability this guy faces if any of his poorly stored inventory is used in a crime.

 

[Bubbles]

Think of the civil liability this guy faces if any of his poorly stored inventory is used in a crime.

He already faces quite a bit anyway, as in the thread over at ArizonaShooting he states that he's not insured for most of the losses, and some of the guns in that list are transfers, not company inventory.

 

[Bwana John]

The guy kept them in the TRUNK of his car?

And loaded them in and out every day?

Sounds like this is not his first problem with the BATF
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"A word of advice for Bigfatbulldog. Get out of the gun business. You've had Two major ATF incidents in the past year. Surrender your license before they decide to really put you under the microscope. You're dealing with an agency that views mistakes and bad judgment as willful misconduct."

http://arizonashooting.com/v3/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=150196&start=60

 

[Holling]

He already faces quite a bit anyway, as in the thread over at ArizonaShooting he states that he's not insured for most of the losses, and some of the guns in that list are transfers, not company inventory.

Guess his auto insurance doesn't cover that.

 

[jay21]

Yeah it is a bad deal all around. He is a friend through the industry and it just sucks. We are not close enough for me to ask dude ***?, but i am up to snuff on the "other" occurance and it was a small fry paperwork oops only. He was using offsite storage as a security precaution, the transportation appears to be the OOPS from what little i have found. Either way eyes need to be kept on finding the guns IMHO.