JFrame
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To the OP -- to supplement what others have said, I put a Knoxx SpecOps stock (for the Remington 870) on my Pardner... Works great!
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The overall quality is not there.
Mike it is not a 870 thing, it is the quality of workmanship, and quality of materials that goes into the pardner pumps.
Chances are China has made more AK's and SKS's than anyone else, but they do not compete with any Italian, Spanish, English, or German guns made today, let alone what we make right here.
The overall quality is not there.
All those Chinese clones including Savage Ithaca 37 and Norinco Winchester 1897 are crowbars. That alone would prevent my from ever buying one. One the other hand old vintage 2&3/4 smoothbore Ithaca Deerslayer handles like the magic wand. I would like to thank H&R Pardner owners for buying them as this makes Chinese happy and makes them less likely to attack us. Thanks for keeping America safe. Hasta la vista, folks.
A pump action shotgun is about as simple as it gets. If the factories in China can produce complex products like Apple smartphones, laptop computers and HDTVs, I think they can figure out how to build a shotgun.
If you understand who and what norinco is that alone is enough to keep me from buying it! I have had a 97 copy and a nearly new pre-ban norinco AK The A.K. went bag and sent lead down range, but my Smooth bore 56 cal muzzle loader is more accurate at 50 yards the 97 clone I would classify as just ok . My experience with heat treating machines and how the company handled chinese steel puts them in the I won't bet my life on them catagory. just to go out and make noise the gun will work . I will still support American worker and buy remingtonI have a few of em.
Wouldn't buy an 870 ever anymore.
They are for all intents and purposes built by Norinco. It just says Hawk Industries because of Slick Willy.
Norinco has always built very strong guns.
Funny how those Polytech AKs still fetch the most bucks.
Also how Norinco was one of the few 1911 frames Clark would build on.
Fantastic buy. Not the prettiest girl at the party but she can sure dance better than the rest.
Spark testing is a very general way to check steel. You still have no idea what grade of steel you have
It is so nice to know your file can replace a $7,000 Rockwell testing machine.
If a guy is testing MY gun with a file and telling me what kind of steel it is made of, You have no idea how fast I'll be going through the door leaving!
Chances are a Master Smith won't be working on one of the guns people have talked about in this thread.