Had my very first fail-to-feed in my pistol and I think I know the cause: RemOil

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This past Saturday I took several pistols with me to the range. One of them has been a 100% reliable gun since I bought it. But I hadn't shot it for at least 4-5 months so I took it out of my safe and brought it along.

Well, I inserted a magazine and chambered the first round. The pistol fired once but I experienced a fail-to-feed on the second round. This has NEVER happened in this pistol. Ever.

Field stripping quickly showed me that the slide and frame rails were totally dry. Clean, but dry. Dry as a popcorn fart.

I know that the last time I cleaned and lubed this pistol I used RemOil in the rails (something I rarely do). I normally use it only to wipe down the exterior of a blued gun and I do that quite often. But it was near at hand the day I cleaned so I gave each rail a few drops.

I've observed over the past year that the 1-oz bottles I've been buying have been more the consistency of very very light mineral oil, and as clear as water. It didn't used to be that way, did it????

Has anyone else noticed how RemOil is so light that it evaporates? And if it does, why is it marketed for lubricating and corrosion prevention?
 
I'm pretty sure nearly all oils will evaporate evntually.

Like you, I clean the gun inside and out with RemOil (spray). Then I use shooters choice FP-10. Just a few drops on the rails, and rack the slide repeatedly to spread it.
 
I've Noticed The Same Thing After About a week in my GLOCK & S&W When I Go Shooting But They Still Work Fine I figured the oil seaped into the metal or the plastic never gave it to much thought as I do clean weekly after each session Mabey Its Time To Try Another Oil
 
Remoil

I haven't figured out what it's good for.

Used to use it on auto shotguns. Started using Breakfree (the commercial stuff not the mil stuff). Have never looked back.
 
REM-Oil is only good for cleaning, scrubbing, and rinsing of your gun. I clean my guns with REM-Oil, and then re-oil with Break-Free CLP. In the past, I had the good old military CLP my friend gave me... now I ran out... so I only use the commercial CLP for lubing... that stuff stays on for 2 - 3 weeks while REM-Oil evaporates after one week.
 
I had the same experience recently with "Tri-Flow." I cleaned a 9mm and lubed with it, but several months went by before I went to the range with that pistol. I started on a box of the dreaded Winchester White Box from Wally-World. It was fine for about 70 rounds, the I had a failure to go into battery. The next magazine, I had another. By the end of the 100 rd. box, almost every shot failed to let the slide lock forward. I was quite annoyed and when I got home to clean it, the pistol was quite dirty and seemed to show no signs of having any lube at all on the slide rails. Looks like the tri-flow just evaporated.

Went back a week later (actually using Rem-Oil, but applied just a day before) and shot 250 rounds without a malfunction.

Heavy grease causes problems right away, but light viscosity oil seems to evaporate quickly. So, help me out friends. What lube works best for you?
 
Had my only fail-to-feed after remoil, too. The slide lock was on, so I snicked it off - and the round (FMJ) didn't chamber. Did a slingshot on the slide and it loaded and fired the rest of the mag. I guess there's a reason people use grease instead of oil sometimes.
 
Liquid lubes do evaporate, but they also wick out by capillary action.
It's not unusual to see holsters where the toe of the holster is darkened from absorbing lube pulled out of the gun and absorbed by the leather.

This is why if you're going to use a liquid lube, check the gun WEEKLY at the least.

Personally, I use grease on defense guns and the actions of revolvers, simply because it doesn't evaporate, run off, wick out, or sling off.

A good lube for defense use is Super-Lube.
This is a clear-white Teflon synthetic lube. They make a stiff grease, but their "oil" is more a thick oil/thin grease that stays put like grease, but isn't so stiff.
http://www.super-lube.com/

I've used this for revolver actions and slide rails for years.
 
Gunslick + Ruger 22 Pistol = failure to feed. The slide moves too fast and misses stripping the next cartridge.

Only time I've seen that. never had a problem with Rem-Oil or CLP.

Pro-Tec Gun Grease turns gummy in a short time, I got some at a match once as a door prize... I hate the stuff.
 
Yeah, RemOil is just way too thin to use in actions, IMO.

So, help me out friends. What lube works best for you?
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I got tired of CLP running/evaporating so quickly, so I started using LP (thicker than CLP). I like it a lot -- it seems to stick where I put it, and I've yet to have a problem with lubricity or rust. I also like that Browning Midas oil in the syringe, but it's pretty spendy.

Wes
 
Never had a problem with RemOil OR CLP... but I use both liberally. Although both appear to evaporate after a period, if you check there seems to be a definite film that is left behind; then again, we all use different amounts, so I may be spraying "enough" to leave behind a film.
 
Not oil related

If it was only one round, a "dry" gun should operate fine. The gun does not Need oil to operate. Wouldn't want to put 1000 rounds down a un-oiled gun, but one round, then a misfeed is another problem not oil related.
 
All gun oils, inlcuding CLP's, will evaporate eventually. Some quicker than other. Lightly lube your guns *before* going to the range and you'll be fine. There's are reasons why soldiers clean thier weapons even when they haven't been fired. Keeping them lubed is one of them.
 
So if the cause was lube-related, then cause of nitesite's failure wasn't Remoil, but a lack of proper maintenance as a result of unfamiliarity with the products used and a failure to properly inspect a gun before firing (hence not realizing there was a problem) after a long period of being dormant.

After 4 or 5 months, any gun should be inspected for lubrication before firing, especially since the last 4-5 months have been summer months. Actually, all guns not regularly shot and maintained should be checked over before firing, for things such as lube issues. It is just smart to do.

As usp9 noted, even without lube the gun should have cycled after firing the first round.
 
I don't use oil or grease on any of my guns.

I use RZ-50 dry lube, purchased at Home Depot.

It does not attract lint or dirt and stays put for up to 3 years.

This stuff is great for pocket guns. My P-3AT stays completely lint free in my pocket with this dry lube.

I have an Arcus that I thoroughly cleaned when I first purchased it and has only been lubed with RZ-50 (used to be called RD-50).

It has over 5000 rounds through it and has never seen a drop of oil or grease and has not had a single malfunction of any kind.

http://www.rz-50.com/
 
All I use to lube my guns any more is Mobile 1 5W/30 motor oil. The synthetic oil stays on for a long time without drying out. It also makes my firearms work smoother than other lubes. I don't like gun grease of anykind but have never tried Gunbutter. I hear that it is a good lube also.
 
If you're going to use RemOil as a lube, you need to shake it WELL and use a LOT.

The carrier evaporates completely leaving a Teflon lube in place. But there's not a lot of Teflon in RemOil. If you just spray a tiny bit (especially if you don't shake it first), you blew some of the carrier in there but little or no Teflon. So you're left with no lube after the carrier evaporates.
 
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