Had the P64 out at the range today..

[115grfmj]

and let me tell you, this thing continues to impress me with it's accuracy. It's a down right tack driver. With S&B 95 gr fmj's, I was able to keep a whole mag on a paper plate, OFFHAND! and whole mag groups from my rest, in a circle the size of and Orange (and yes oranges were injured)....at what distance you might ask? 50 yards!!! It's a POCKET PISTOL, doesn't it know it's not supposed to do that?

 

[GLOOB]

My first time shooting mine, off hand, I put 4 shots in a row through the same hole at 20 feet. Shots 2-5. They were just a fraction of an inch away from the first hole. And they didn't even cloverleaf. They went through the same damn hole. I could just barely see the paper moving. I was so impressed with myself that the pressure got to me on the last shot. It was a fraction of an inch off. I know it's only 20 feet, but I have never done that with a handgun before. Literally no marks marks on the paper from 3 of those shots. You'd think it was 3 shots fired.

It sure shoots a bit differently than, say, an LCP.

 

[Snowdog]

My P64 has a scary-light SA trigger and narrow front post, lending to it being incredibly accurate. Recoil is a bit unpleasant and the DA trigger is next to unusable, but I agree that it's a tack driver. Mine have so far has proved itself to be perfectly reliable too.

 

[115grfmj]

I replaced my hammer spring a few years ago with the wolf reduced power spring. Now the DA is completely usable, and it really didn't seem to change the SA trigger pull, at least not to the point were it is noticeable. I forget which spring I used but, I believe it was the 17lb spring, and the DA pull reduction was drastically lower!! The best thing though is I got it when they first started to appear on the US market..... for $99 bucks....unissued

 

[Dan-O]

Got the Wolff spring pack for mine and it helped a ton. The gun is still a bit small for my xxl hands and bites the heck out if my hand. Otherwise, it would probably get carried/shot a lot more.

 

[nathan]

I had a P64 for a year. It was okey but i sold it. I use my Russian commercial makarov since then. It just feel right with a full grip and longer barrel.

 

[Snowdog]

115grfmj, I also paid that for my P64 a few years ago when it seemed they were coming out of the woodwork. I bought mine from Southern Ohio Gun (SOG) and opted for the $10 handpick with the request of an unissued made during my birth year ('76). I really wasn't expecting see anything from the second part of that request. SOG is awesome.




I actually carried it for a few months as I was quite impressed with the accuracy and reliability. I never bothered with the safety as the DA trigger is heavy enough to be a safety in and of itself. It has since been replaced by a Sig P238 that had more usable sights, IMO. They're night sights at that. However, the P238HD is no more accurate and cost me 5 times what the P64 did



The P64 is a tad bit larger than the P238, but it's still way on the small side and can easily be slid into a front pocket in an emergency

 

[.455_Hunter]

Snowdog- Great looking P64! I have one, but have not yet hit the range with it.

Good to see another '76 Bicentennial kid on the forum.

 

[115grfmj]

Mine was from TN Gun, but still has that same sexy deep blueing. Some of the latest ones seem to have alot of electro pen engraving on the slide. Mine just has the engraving on the under side of the frame (up front). I also have my birth year...only a few years before yours but still with the triangle hamer.

 

[Jaymo]

Is it just me, or do they resemble an H&K?

Don't have one.
Want one.
Have Russian and Bulgarian Maks and a CZ82.
I love 9x18.

 

[115grfmj]

Jaymo.... sounds like your building pretty nice 9x18 collection. Whats one more huh..

 

[rtz]

Get one before the supply dries up:

http://www.aimsurplus.com/product.aspx?item=F3P64&name=Polish+Radom+P-64+9x18+Pistol&groupid=254

http://www.classicfirearms.com/polish-radom-p-64-pistols-g

Info on changing the springs out:

http://www.p64resource.com/fixes.php

Brand new mags:

http://www.keepshooting.com/polish-p64-magazine.html

 

[GLOOB]

I never bothered with the safety as the DA trigger is heavy enough to be a safety in and of itself.

Nope. If you want to carry the P64 with a loaded chamber, you must put the safety on, period.

 

[Geezer Glide]

I'm a big 9X18 fan, I own a P64, PA-63, and a CZ82. I have changed to Wolff springs in the P64 and PA-63 and even with the lighter springs, I see no need to use the manual safety when carrying. DA trigger pull is equal to or greater than some of my DA revolvers.

 

[115grfmj]

Nah...it's fine with just the trigger.....as long as you don't drop it, or let the hammer slip if your pocketing. In which case ventilation will occur. Yeah it's design to be carried with the safety on, so I'd use as designed.

 

[Armor Snail]

115grfmj,



I never bothered with the safety as the DA trigger is heavy enough to be a safety in and of itself. ]

I agree, its in DA with a safe pull.

No different than a wheel gun.



No need to engage a safety on anything with a lowered hammer.



Where's that Eric Bana picture when you need it.

 

[Snowdog]

Granted, the P64 isn't drop-safe. There has actually been a accounts of the P64 in particular having been dropped and fired.

I knew that going in, that the P64 is not drop safe. I handle firearms multiple times a day and in the past 25 years, I have yet to drop one. I no longer carry the P64, having replaced it with a Sig P238HD. However, if I wanted to carry the P64, I'd go right back to carrying it the same way as I did before.

 

[GLOOB]

I handle firearms multiple times a day and in the past 25 years, I have yet to drop one.

I have yet to pull the trigger when I didn't mean to. In fact, it's so ingrained to not pull the trigger, I would normally let a falling gun drop, rather than try to catch it. What to do if it's a P64 with the safety off?

To each their own. But I'd sooner carry a 1911 with a 3 lb trigger with the manual safety removed than to carry a gun that can shoot me or a bystander thru the head if:
1. I were to drop the gun.
2. It were to fall out of my holster.
3. I were to drop my entire holster while in the mens room, and the holstered gun lands on the hammer on hard tiled flooring.

A P64 isn't simply not drop safe. It's not drop safe in the same basic manner as an old Colt SAA isn't drop safe. No one with any sense carried one of those with the hammer over a loaded chamber. If it was the sort of non-dropsafe of an old Springfield 1911, due to a heavy firing pin and weak spring, then no big deal. That can only fire when dropped muzzle down. I don't mind a remote chance of putting a hole in the floor. I won't abide a remote chance of accidentally killing someone else or myself. As remote as the chance, I think the need of me drawing and using a sidearm are even more remote.

I have handled stuff, including guns, for my entire life. I have dropped plenty of stuff, including guns. (And I didn't have to duck for cover). What I have never done in my entire life is to have been in a situation where I would have drawn and fired a carry sidearm, intentionally. Thus, I wouldn't carry a P64 with the safety off. That would be a net negative proposition. And for what? I can use the safety, just fine.

No need to engage a safety on anything with a lowered hammer.

That's the thing. You can't lower the hammer on a P64. It has an exposed, rebounding hammer. This method of making a non-inertial firing pin "safe" has proven to be crap, and is nothing but a footnote in firearm history. There's probably a joke about Polish engineering in here, somewhere.

 

[115grfmj]

With the safety engaged the firing pin is held captive and will not move.....just carry it that way and there is no issue

 

[HisSoldier]

An underrated handgun, high quality Mfg, fit and finish. Much better than some eastern block guns.

 

[Nakanokalronin]

I've had an IJ70 Russian Makarov, CZ-82 and a P64. All of those blowbacks have been very accurate. It mainly has to do with them having a fixed barrel. I sold my P64 since I got slide bite from my thumbs forward high hold.