Hakim trigger problem?

[belercous]

I recently acquired an Egyptian Hakim. Yesterday at the range while firing it for the first time, the trigger wouldn't reset. If I pushed it forward a tad it was fine. I figured there was a broken trigger reset spring or some other mechanical problem & off it would go to my gunsmith.

I field stripped it for cleaning that night & noticed that with the bolt out the trigger reset on it's own just fine. I pushed the hammer down slowly & it either caught the sear or didn't, not like the bolt wasn't coming back quite enough to cock the hammer fully & reset the trigger. The haamer would catch the sear & the trigger was reset. Yet, during live firing, it never reset the trigger by itself. I shot 20 rounds. I did manually cycle the bolt after the first & second times when the trigger didn't reset & the trigger reset itself. But that was ejecting an unfired round which was chambered.

With the bolt out & on the bench, pulling the trigger releases the hammer, but keeping the trigger pulled back will not allow the hammer to re-engage the sear & reset. The slight effort it took to push the trigger forward at the range certainly wasn't enough to cock the hammer.

Does anyone know what is going on here? This just seems weird.

 

[rcmodel]

I know nothing about the Hakim.

But I know a little about firearms in general.

IF the hammer & trigger works as it should with the bolt out.

But doesn't work when fired because the bolt doesn't re-cock it?l

You have a gas problem not pushing the bolt back far enough to cock the hammer.

BTW: 'Pushing' on the trigger has nothing at all to do with cocking the hammer.
Either the bolt cocks it at full travel, or not.

If it works right when you cycle the bolt by hand, but doesn't work when firing?

Something is wrong with the gas system that failed to push the bolt back all the way.

Could be carbon in the gas system?
Could be weak ammo?
Could be a lack of lubrication?

Who knows?

But that's were you start looking.

rc

 

[belercous]

I know the trigger doesn't cock the hammer, but when the bolt is in battery the hammer must already be cocked, it's just that the trigger isn't engaging the hammer to release it. The bolt cycles enough to eject the fired round & chamber a new one. Then just a slight push fwd resets the trigger, like the hammer was cocked, just not engaged with the trigger.

Stripped down, the hammer either cocks & engages the trigger or it doesn't cock. No spot where the hammer's cocked but the trigger isn't engaged.

And if I keep the trigger pressed back as if I just fired a round, the hammer won't cock at all, it pops back up. Yet it doesn't fire more than a single round.

I shot rem oil into the trigger mechanism at the range, no help.

The ammo seems pretty good for milsurp, is very consistent in my Mausers.

When I cycle it by hand it resets, but it also spits out the chambered round so I only did that twice. It acts like the bolt needs to come back a tad more during cycling, but if that were the case the hammer wouldn't be cocked.

This is very weird.

 

[rcmodel]

And if I keep the trigger pressed back as if I just fired a round, the hammer won't cock at all, it pops back up.

Then the disconnector is binding up for some reason.

rc

 

[joem1945]

Try adjusting the gas regulator to allow more gas to drive the bolt back. To adjust the gas regulator; load one round and fire it in a safe direction. The brass should eject about 12 to 15 feet about 2:00 position. If that doesn't happen open or close the gas valve a bit. Hakim's have the adjustable gas regulator to account for different crappy ammo.

 

[belercous]

I guess it couldn't hurt to try adjusting the regulator. The ejected casings hit the roof of the shooting benches (fairly hard) from between 12:00-1:30 & fwd.

 

[Snow Dog]

Years ago I had a Hakim and experienced a similar situation. I figured it was going to take an expensive trip to the gunsmith to sort it out. In fact, if memory serves, all it needed was the screws that hold the trigger guard to the stock tightened. The Hakim has it's trigger guard and trigger mechanism all together in an easily removable assembly. If one or both of the screws work loose then the entire trigger block can slip down and out of alignment. Try snugging up the screws and see if it helps.

 

[lysanderxiii]

Did you ever get this fixed?