Handgun cartridge carbines: Whaddya got and why?

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Pretty much it. Ruger released the rifler in 1961 as the Deerstalker but Ithaca Gun had the moniker so by 1962 the name was changed to simply Model 44. The originals are hard to find and command a premium. The last Model 44 I saw was in the $600 range. The rifles function best with 44 magnum full loads and I never used heavier than a 240 grain bullet. Yes, with the recoil and considering the gun is actually gas operated you would think they hammer themselves pretty good but actually I never had a problem with one. I like them for their size and weight. Just a nice quick handling little gun and actually the Ruger 10/22 came along after the Model 44 but only by a few years.

Ron

Thanks for the refresher.....I do find them very interesting.....and *gasp* under valued......It is on the list, so if the right something crosses the radar I will snag it....but I am not on a current hunt for one....the hunt is the fun part.

Items like this have some legs in my view.....looking at the current landscape who knows what is going to happen, and I have a feeling real changes are coming in 6-ish years at best......second term pres with zero friends.....things could get interesting.....but lets not go there......they are very cool little guns.
 
For many years while I worked as a small town street cop, I owned a Rossi Model 92 in 357. Took a nice 4 pointer with it and never had to use it while it rode on patrol. About 8 years ago I changed professions. Still pack a gun and a badge, but it wasn't as a road officer. Like an idiot I sold that little Rossi and have been kicking my butt ever since. Local gun shop hasn't had a Rossi 357 in years and the ones on GB are too rich for my blood.

Luckily I did find a 45 Model 92 Trapper and it's my go to gun around the homestead.
 
For many years while I worked as a small town street cop, I owned a Rossi Model 92 in 357. Took a nice 4 pointer with it and never had to use it while it rode on patrol. About 8 years ago I changed professions. Still pack a gun and a badge, but it wasn't as a road officer. Like an idiot I sold that little Rossi and have been kicking my butt ever since. Local gun shop hasn't had a Rossi 357 in years and the ones on GB are too rich for my blood.

Luckily I did find a 45 Model 92 Trapper and it's my go to gun around the homestead.

For some reason everyone wants the 357/38 lever guns....they just do not sit on a shelf very long, be they new or used.....and they command top $$$.

And for the life of me I just can't figure out why....the 44's are everywhere.....both hand gun cartridges are not super popular like 9 or 45 or......

Really odd....is it the fact that 38 is pretty cheap....don't think so 9mm is also pretty cheap.....shocked someone has not done a lever 9...or 45 for that matter, not everyone wants to play tactical tony....some want to play cowboy....and the two auto cartridges are about as cowboy as the two rimmed cartridges. Is a rimmed cartridge more "easy" to get working in a lever....don't think that is it...seems like an easy thing to figure out.

Just really strange that the 38-357 go for what they do.....and that someone is not pumping them out as fast as they can.
 
Lever action guns were designed for rimmed cartridges. I'm sure they could be modified to fire rimless like 9mm & 45 ACP but market wise probably not worth the expense.
First a 357/38 can match or surpass a 9mm does & the 45 Colt or 44 Magnum can match or surpass the 45 ACP so there's no need to redesign the rifle just to duplicate existing performance
Another reason is that people buy lever actions because of the nostalgia factor and 9mm's and 45 ACP's were not around at that time.& there are already a number of semiauto rifles (especially in 9mm) that are designed for rimless cases

As far as popularity many 357/38's are bought for Cowboy Action Competition where speed is a factor. The 357/38's are faster in both rifle & revolver because they recoil less. Also 357/38 ammo is cheaper than the bigger calibers
Finally many folks buy levers that match their revolver caliber (having a rifle & handgun in the same caliber is one of the main attractions). I don't know what the exact numbers are but 357/38 revolvers outnumber 44's & 45's by a significant factor
My Marlin 1894 is a 44. I bought it to match my 44 Mag revolver & I like having the extra power. But I'm sure I would also be fine with a 357/38.
 
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