Handgun Cartridge on a keychain

[RAY WOODROW 3RD]

In New Jersey..................

If you carry around an empty casing with a hollow point bullet in it on your key ring, just on your person, or loose in your vehicle you will be charged with posession of a hollow point bullet. I believe the fine is $1,000.00 for each round posessed, up to 18 months in jail and it is a crime in the fourth degree.

Carrying it on your key ring does not fit into one of the "exemptions" provided by the state for posession of hollw point bullets.

You see, it is the bullet itself that is regulated not the casing!

 

[Autolite]

Legal Question ...

What if you have on your key chain a "fired" lead ball? When is a bullet no longer considered a bullet? I'm losin' sleep over this one ...

 

[AZTOY]

I have a 44 mag keychain hang on my rear veiw mirror and and never had any problems!! I also work at the Tucson Airport , my trucks is parked there every day and i never had any problems!!! .



I also realy need to get the AK brass out of the truck

 

[BrokenPaw]

I got stopped (pre September 11 '01) at airport security because of the dummy round on my keyring. I patiently explained to the security droid that it was an inactive round and that it could not fire. Eventually[0] he explained to me that he wasn't worried about it as a cartridge, but as a hand-to-hand weapon.

Granted, it was a .50-BMG round[1], and I guess you could use one as a kubotan with a nice pointy end.

It was a business trip, and I had to go, right then, or I might not have just given in and put the keyring in my checked baggage.

Still, it was worth the hassle, just to see the guy waving my keys around like a complete lunatic, shouting, "Look! Look! Is stabbing weapon! Stab! Stab! You see?"

-BP

[0] through a thick cloud of some language or other
[1] I still have it as my primary keychain. It's a wonderful conversation-starter.

 

[veloce851]

Forgive me if I am incorrect, but what athority does Airport Security have to "confiscate" an artifact of my personal posession. Before or after 9/11??
I can understand(not condone) this action with HS children under 18 at School.
But for a grown adult to have a legitimate artifact confiscated without just compensation sounds like a violation of the 5th amendment (article 7)

"nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation."

if public use would be in the interest if public safety it would have to be taken.. then they still owe you just compensation.

Otherwise the only course of action I could see possible is to refuse you access to the terminal until you either returned the object to your car/home whatever.
Or promptly went to a ups or fedex counter and mailed it home. It's not a live round and therefore would not violate thier shipping regs.

Personally I would tell them to go shove it if they wanted to "confiscate" the object. Tell me I can't take in onboard fine. I'll dispose of it myself. Or as stated above put it in my checked luggage.

I am curious as to the definition of "confiscated" that has been used here?
Am I to believe that all of you willingly let them take an artifact of yours without just compensation?

 

[Desert Dog]

I have a 50 Beowulf dummy cartridge keychain right now I am using.

It does get attention in the wrong groups of people...

Mike

 

[Watch-Six]

I used to have a 38special case/bullet with the primer replaced by a loop for a key chain fob. It was totally inert, no primer or powder. I got into a hassle at the airport about ten years ago over it. I just let them have the thing. It wasn't worth arguing over once I could see that reason had no effect on the discussion. I can't even imagine how the same experience would go over now. I'd probably be in jail. Watch-Six

 

[HankB]

It doesn't say much for Airport Security if they can't identify a real threat from a keychain.

Remember, most of these are people who couldn't make it in the challenging world of food service.

And bullets on keychains make nice stocking-stuffers around Christmas time for these poor, underpaid, public servants. (See . . . Want . . . Take)

 

[jsalcedo]

I went to Fort Benning and watched one of the first demonstrations of the Bradley fighting vehicle. After the live fire of the chain gun, missiles and coaxial 7.62, I was able to go over and pick up several empty 25mm cases and links.

I assembled them and took them into columbus airport for the ride home.

The lady at the counter about had a fit and put them in a box with a big red label marked "dangerous explosives"

I Still got to keep them though

 

[BallisticTip]

I made one of these for my nephew, 8 years old he thought it was cool. Drilled 4 holes though the dummy. He got caught at school with it an the, SHTF !

 

[zahc]

Forgive me if I am incorrect, but what athority does Airport Security have to "confiscate" an artifact of my personal posession. Before or after 9/11??

I though the people had willfully given up their stuff in exchange for an airplane ride. It never ocurred to me that they actually confiscated. If so you are right.

 

[Autolite]

zahc In my posting to this thread ...

I used the word "confiscated" as that was the case. I was flying "duty" at the time so it was the federal government that obligated me to take the flight. I presume that it was federal law that prevented me from carrying on my 7.62 key chain and my non-carry on baggage had already been checked aboard. I didn't have the legal option of refusing the flight, ergo, "confiscated" ...