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Handgun given to someone under 21 in florida

Discussion in 'Legal' started by trigun87, Jul 12, 2010.

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  1. trigun87

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    Is it against the law in a private transaction to give a handgun to per say a 19 year old? Cause I wanna trade for a rifle he has but he wants one of my hand guns.
     
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    18 or over and under 21 it's perfectly legal.
    The kid just can't buy a hand gun from an FFL.
    But as a gift or private purchase perfectly legal

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  4. NavyLCDR

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    I wonder how long it is going to be before someone comes along and posts, "It may be legal, but I sure wouldn't give no dang kid a handgun!"

    I personally don't feel that way, I wouldn't take age into any more consideration if the person was 18 or 88. But, I'll bet before this thread is over someone is going to say it!
     
  5. berettaprofessor

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    NavyLT, I won't say it, but I'll say I'd wanna know the young man DARNED WELL before I traded him a handgun....i.e. well enough to be able to assess his level of maturity and ...well....maturity covers it. There's a vast amount of mental process maturing that continues clear out to around age 25 or so in most of our youth...and most young boys I know work overtime to prove my point.

    So I guess I would take age and thought processes into consideration. As I did when I didn't give a handgun to my own son yet...who purchased his first on his own at 21 and that may have been a little too soon.
     
  6. DenaliPark

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    Took just fifteen minutes.
     
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    If I only had as good luck with lottery numbers! :D
     
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    One goal of the age limits laws is to prevent youths from being introduced to the "gun culture"--my father took me target shooting when I was six. Surveys show that people who own guns today for hunting, target shooting, collection, self-defense or civilian practice preparatory for military service, were introduced to shooting by their parents or older relatives while still minors. So one goal of these laws is to break the cycle and thus eliminate the "gun culture". That is, the good, beneficial gun culture of responsible use.

    Of course that leaves the youths saturated with the gangstah gun culture of criminals and thugs glamorized by TV, movies, music and pop culture: the bad, detrimental gun culture that thrives when the responsible gun culture is cut off.
     
  9. wishin

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    NavyLT

    Off topic, but since you're on a roll, would you take a shot at when they'll stop the oil spill?:D
     
  10. Charleo0192

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    Thats how it is in South Carolina as well.

    Went to a local gun shop when I was younger and the guy behind the counter wouldn't hand me the gun, but said he could hand the gun to my dad, and my dad could hand the gun to me. Just because I wasn't 21
     
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    In SC you can't own a rifle, shotgun or pistol until your 21. If your hunting with your father you can borrow a gun.
    Also I think maturity is important. I know 60 yr old's that shouldn't have guns.
     
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    Really?!? Can you explain this South Carolina statute to us, please?

    http://www.scstatehouse.gov/code/t16c023.htm

    SECTION 16-23-30. Sale or delivery of handgun to and possession by certain persons unlawful; stolen handguns.

    (A) It is unlawful for a person to knowingly sell, offer to sell, deliver, lease, rent, barter, exchange, or transport for sale into this State any handgun to:

    (1) a person who has been convicted of a crime of violence in any court of the United States, the several states, commonwealths, territories, possessions, or the District of Columbia or who is a fugitive from justice or a habitual drunkard or a drug addict or who has been adjudicated mentally incompetent;

    (2) a person who is a member of a subversive organization;

    (3) a person under the age of eighteen, but this shall not apply to the issue of handguns to members of the Armed Forces of the United States, active or reserve, National Guard, State Militia, or R. O. T. C., when on duty or training or the temporary loan of handguns for instructions under the immediate supervision of a parent or adult instructor; or

    (4) a person who by order of a circuit judge or county court judge of this State has been adjudged unfit to carry or possess a firearm, such adjudication to be made upon application by any police officer, or by any prosecuting officer of this State, or sua sponte, by the court, but a person who is the subject of such an application is entitled to reasonable notice and a proper hearing prior to any such adjudication.

    (B) It is unlawful for a person enumerated in subsection (A) to possess or acquire handguns within this State.
     
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    Gee, what's considered a subversive organization in South Carolina? And who decides?
     
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    http://www.scstatehouse.gov/code/t16c023.htm

    and

    http://www.scstatehouse.gov/code/t23c029.htm
    Any other questions? :)

    Still no explanation for 16-23-30 which allows for sales of handguns to persons 18 years of age and over when:
     
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    NavyLT You're right I was mistaken, I read this a few weeks ago. I looked up GUN LAWS SC and wound up looking at (crime.about.com) It was wrong. THANKS.
     
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    Thank you! There is a lot of incorrect info on the internet - it's best to look at the source documents. (Of course, the source documents are on the internet too, doh!)
     
  17. PACKIN' PLASTIC

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    In Florida sporting or unloaded possession is 16, other possession is 18, private purchase is 18 and of course dealer purchase or licensed carry is is 21.

    Federal possession is 18 unless you have written parental permission which a lot of people are not aware of.

    I purchased 3 cartridge handguns before I turned 21 and yet I never held up any candy stores:rolleyes:

    He may have trouble buying ammunition although if it's a common caliber you can go to walmart and tell them it's for a rifle...or at least that's what I've been told:D


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  18. NavyLCDR

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    Which is a felony, if the ammo is actually for use in a handgun.
     
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  20. PACKIN' PLASTIC

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    Where do you dream this stuff up? You need to read and understand the law before repeating drivel someone made up.

    It isn't illegal to sell handgun ammo to an 18 year old, nor is it illegal for an 18 year old to buy handgun ammo. The law only says that FFL dealers may not sell ammo to anyone under 21 if they believe it will be used in a handgun.

    If an 18 year old says he needs ammo for a camp 9 then changes his mind and uses it in a glock he has not broken a single law but rather utilized a loophole either intentionally or accidentally. (Federal or Florida, other states have other laws)


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    Perhaps you should take your own advise:


    * Not more than $250,000
     
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  22. NavyLCDR

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    bingo, thank you brboyer.

    PACKIN' PLASTIC,

    How did your statement go from this:
    To this:
    You are talking about two entirely separate scenarios.

    Also this:
    Is not committing a felony.

    This:
    Is committing a felony.

    I do believe that most of 18 USC 922 is drivel that someone made up; but, unfortunately, it happens to be Federal law.
     
  23. PACKIN' PLASTIC

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    In theory though I am going to agree with you NavyLT, in practice though accidents happen intentionally and intentions happen accidentally or so I've been told.


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  24. NavyLCDR

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    On TheHighRoad we don't recommend that people break the law, loophole or not.... in theory.
     
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