pacerdude
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Either a DAO revolver, or a Glock, M&P or XD.
Handgun with the simplest manual of arms?
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My wife started with a Glock 19. She developed a really bad flinch, shot poorly, and didn't like shooting. We traded it for a 3" Ruger SP101 (enough barrel to aim/point well, slim enough to wear comfortably, light enough to carry easily, wide handle to disperse recoil, and grips that fit her full hand) and she now shoots very well.
For longarms, she's currently using a Remington 870, but she short strokes it sometimes so I'm about to trade it in for a side by side Stoeger.
i seem to remember that Beretta used to produce a larger version chambered in .380...i think it was the single stack version of the M-84
A Glock may be a better choice than a revolver, since the manual of arms also translates to every single other autopistol with a push-button mag release, other than manual safeties, if present.
Whereas with a revolver, you've got about as many ways of releasing the cylinder as there are brands. S&W/Taurus, push forward. Colt, pull back. Ruger, push in. Mateba, push down. Dan Wesson, push down in front of the cylinder.
Whereas with a revolver, you've got about as many ways of releasing the cylinder as there are brands. S&W/Taurus, push forward. Colt, pull back. Ruger, push in. Mateba, push down. Dan Wesson, push down in front of the cylinder.
gbw
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They make one in .32, I'm not sure if it has the flip up barrel. My mother, 80++, loves my .22, she stole it from me. Anything, any time, it's hers. Literally anyone who can pull a trigger can use it.
The answer is a DAO revolver.
This is the answer for all the reasons given. No semi auto could be as simple.
FLip up barreled Beretta .22 or .25. Model 21, I think.
Strongly disagree. The tip up Berettas require a unique manual of arms to deal with a malfunction.
This is the answer for all the reasons given. No semi auto could be as simple.
FLip up barreled Beretta .22 or .25. Model 21, I think.
Strongly disagree. The tip up Berettas require a unique manual of arms to deal with a malfunction.
gbw
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We disagree. That's what makes a horse race.
I've had 3 Berettas. Many thousands of rounds (all .22). No malfunctions. Ever. But anything is possible, if it were to happen it is easy to actually see what's going on, and simple to clear it.
They are also very small and light.
Revolvers do require work if there is any crud under the extractor. I've seen it happen often enough to be a concern. Or the ejector rod starts backing out (S&W). Or Rambo starts snapping the cylinder shut.
But actually I don't think this is what the OP is asking. I took it to be just basic operation, and didn't include malfunctions. If you start including them the answer becomes complex. I'd still say the Beretta meets his criteria list as well as a revolver, possibly better for those with weak hands or wrists.
I've had 3 Berettas. Many thousands of rounds (all .22). No malfunctions. Ever. But anything is possible, if it were to happen it is easy to actually see what's going on, and simple to clear it.
They are also very small and light.
Revolvers do require work if there is any crud under the extractor. I've seen it happen often enough to be a concern. Or the ejector rod starts backing out (S&W). Or Rambo starts snapping the cylinder shut.
But actually I don't think this is what the OP is asking. I took it to be just basic operation, and didn't include malfunctions. If you start including them the answer becomes complex. I'd still say the Beretta meets his criteria list as well as a revolver, possibly better for those with weak hands or wrists.
Another vote here for a revolver.
But not DAO. Just a regular DA/SA model. The trigger pull on a DAO can be around 14 lbs. Always nice to have the option of pulling the trigger back to cock it.
Definitely revolver. Grab, point, shoot.
Lesson on how to load a revolver: Give person revolver, box of bullets. They'll figure it out in less than a minute.
Even though I'm a firearms enthusiast, a regular shooter, and I just plain loves guns and loves shooting, semi-autos do nothing for me at all. So I'm not recommending a revolver here because "it's best for the little lady," rather, I'm suggesting it because it's an excellent HD weapon and above all else: revolvers do not fail.
But not DAO. Just a regular DA/SA model. The trigger pull on a DAO can be around 14 lbs. Always nice to have the option of pulling the trigger back to cock it.
Definitely revolver. Grab, point, shoot.
Lesson on how to load a revolver: Give person revolver, box of bullets. They'll figure it out in less than a minute.
Even though I'm a firearms enthusiast, a regular shooter, and I just plain loves guns and loves shooting, semi-autos do nothing for me at all. So I'm not recommending a revolver here because "it's best for the little lady," rather, I'm suggesting it because it's an excellent HD weapon and above all else: revolvers do not fail.
sniper5
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Handgun with the simplest manual of arms:
Thompson Contender. Drop in a round, snap shut, pull trigger. FTF drill: try again.
Derringer. Drop in 2 rounds, snap shut, pull trigger twice. FTF drill: try again.
(Remember, you asked about handguns)
Then DA revolver. Drop in 6 rounds, snap shut, pull trigger 6 times. FTF drill: Pull trigger again.
Then single action revolver. Drop in 5 or 6 rounds, shut loading gate, cock hammer, pull trigger, repeat as needed. FTF drill: cock hammer and pull trigger again.
Then striker fired autos with no external safety. Shove in magazine. Pull back slide. Pull trigger until gun stops. FTF drill: Tap, rack, fire. If no bang then drop mag, rip slide several times, reinsert mag and then tap, rack, fire.
Then in descending order of simplicity: DA/SA or DAO autos, the single action autos, then black powder revolvers, then black powder single shot percussion pistols, then black powder flintlock pistols, and then it depends how far back in history you want to go.
Notice that simplicity has nothing to do with speed, capacity, accuracy, or size. Everything is a trade off. The perfect handgun would require no action from the user but pulling the trigger, and would have unlimited capacity, infinite power, infinite capacity, pinpoint accuracy at any distance, weigh nothing, fit everyone, and have no recoil, and be immune from negiligent discharge, and be one hundred percent reliable and only be operable by the user and not be a theft risk.
Let me know when they start selling one, I want to buy it.
Thompson Contender. Drop in a round, snap shut, pull trigger. FTF drill: try again.
Derringer. Drop in 2 rounds, snap shut, pull trigger twice. FTF drill: try again.
(Remember, you asked about handguns)
Then DA revolver. Drop in 6 rounds, snap shut, pull trigger 6 times. FTF drill: Pull trigger again.
Then single action revolver. Drop in 5 or 6 rounds, shut loading gate, cock hammer, pull trigger, repeat as needed. FTF drill: cock hammer and pull trigger again.
Then striker fired autos with no external safety. Shove in magazine. Pull back slide. Pull trigger until gun stops. FTF drill: Tap, rack, fire. If no bang then drop mag, rip slide several times, reinsert mag and then tap, rack, fire.
Then in descending order of simplicity: DA/SA or DAO autos, the single action autos, then black powder revolvers, then black powder single shot percussion pistols, then black powder flintlock pistols, and then it depends how far back in history you want to go.
Notice that simplicity has nothing to do with speed, capacity, accuracy, or size. Everything is a trade off. The perfect handgun would require no action from the user but pulling the trigger, and would have unlimited capacity, infinite power, infinite capacity, pinpoint accuracy at any distance, weigh nothing, fit everyone, and have no recoil, and be immune from negiligent discharge, and be one hundred percent reliable and only be operable by the user and not be a theft risk.
Let me know when they start selling one, I want to buy it.
I've had 3 Berettas. Many thousands of rounds (all .22). No malfunctions. Ever. But anything is possible, if it were to happen it is easy to actually see what's going on, and simple to clear it.
I have a 22 and 25 Beretta and will also testify to their reliability.
Revolvers do require work if there is any crud under the extractor. I've seen it happen often enough to be a concern. Or the ejector rod starts backing out (S&W).
These are maintenance and inspection issues. You can crud up any gun so it won't work properly.
I took it to be just basic operation, and didn't include malfunctions.
if you're talking manual of arms you must take malfunctions into account. A bad primer is not the gun's fault and even with quality ammo happens at times.
But I will agree to disagree gbw. At least we can still do that in this country.
I have a 22 and 25 Beretta and will also testify to their reliability.
Revolvers do require work if there is any crud under the extractor. I've seen it happen often enough to be a concern. Or the ejector rod starts backing out (S&W).
These are maintenance and inspection issues. You can crud up any gun so it won't work properly.
I took it to be just basic operation, and didn't include malfunctions.
if you're talking manual of arms you must take malfunctions into account. A bad primer is not the gun's fault and even with quality ammo happens at times.
But I will agree to disagree gbw. At least we can still do that in this country.
sig p239 9mm with decocker & single stack mag. or sig p232 .380,decocker, & single stack mag. if she licked your p225 she will probably like the p239 with siglight night sights. mine has never failed, ran perfect right out of the box.
woad_yurt
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Revolver! I suggest a Model 10....
OldMac
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The revolver is best. My wife does have some trouble with the heavy DA trigger on the 357 but no problem once cocked. I would rule out the concealed hammers for that fact.
Clipper
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1. DA revolver
2. Kel Tec P-11 or PF-9 ('cause I won't own a Glock)
2. Kel Tec P-11 or PF-9 ('cause I won't own a Glock)
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