Handloading for EMP

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Looking for some good accurate loads for my 9mm EMP. I have several different bullets to choose from. 115gr Hornady Hap and XTP, 124gr Berrys HBRN and 147gr Hornady RN and Xtreme RN. Powders I have Bullseye, Titegroup and a good bit of Power Pistol. I'm using Winchester brass and have WSP or CCI primers. Does anyone have some good recipes for this gun including OAL. Thanks.
 
Mine likes 124 Gr better than 115 Gr. I haven't tried 147s.

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Thanks Walkalong. Wondering if anyone has had success loading for this gun. Maybe someone will share there loads.
 
Potatohead..Thanks for info. Just looking for some loads that people have tried and had good results, especially ones that have loaded for the EMP. Haven't had the greatest results so far with my loads.
 
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Disclaimer: Following post lists loads not currently published by Alliant. Use them at your own risk.

Caution note: Titegroup burns hot and violent and can be spikey near the top. I don't recommend Titegroup to new reloaders (new reloaders may see Titegroup mentioned often due to current powder shortage and Titegroup can produce accurate loads). But if you are not familiar with Titegroup, I would suggest you work with other powders at mid-to-high range load data or exercise extreme caution ensuring your scale is truly accurate to .1 gr with the use of check weight ranges that match the powder charges you are using. Better yet, see if your scale detects and consistently measure two pieces of 1/4"x1/4" 20 lb copy/printer paper at .1+ gr. If you do not posses a scale that can accurately measure Titegroup to .1 gr (like an accurate beam scale), I would be concerned loading near max loads with Titegroup. BTW, this thread discuss accuracy testing of scale down to .02 gr - http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?p=9600852#post9600852

SpringerEMP said:
9mm EMP ...124gr Berrys HBRN ... Bullseye, Titegroup
I do not have an EMP so you'll need to determine the OAL/COL that will reliably feed/chamber from the magazine. I shoot 124 gr Berry's HBRN-TP out of G27 with Lone Wolf conversion barrel and since I load for multiple pistols, I use 1.135" OAL (shorter than listed OAL in Hodgdon load data).

This year, Hodgdon published load data for Berry's plated 9mm 124 gr HBRN-TP under "BERB". When Berry's MFG first released the 9mm 124 gr HBRN in 2011, I referenced the most current published FMJ load data from Hodgdon available at that time to test with Titegroup as there was no load data for the hollow base plated RN bullet. Since I was unfamiliar with this new type of plated bullet back in 2011 with longer bullet base due to hollow base which would seat the bullet base deeper, I exercised caution and only tested up to 4.0 gr when Hodgdon listed 4.4 gr as max charge for 125 gr Sierra FMJ at 1.090" OAL (I could not find lead load data for Titegroup).

I tested 3.8/4.0 gr of Titegroup which produced 2.5"/1.5" shot groups at 15 yards with G22/LW conversion barrel on this thread - http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?p=7266869#post7266869

Here's the current Hodgdon load data and using 4.0 gr as max for shorter 1.135" OAL seemed to have been a good idea back in 2011 -
http://www.hodgdonreloading.com/data/pistolhttp://www.hodgdonreloading.com/data/pistol
124 gr BERB HBRN-TP Titegroup 1.150" OAL Start 3.6 gr (957 fps) 27,700 PSI - Max 4.1 gr (1,057 fps) 32,700 PSI


Bullseye is another very fast burning powder BUT downloads very well (produces accurate loads even with lighter charges). Some reloaders will begin with the START CHARGE and WORK DOWN to identify lighter target loads. For testing Bullseye, I referenced Alliant's online load data which listed 4.4 gr for Speer's Gold Dot HP at 1.120" OAL and 2004 Alliant load data which listed 4.9 gr for both 125 FMJ and lead bullets at 1.150" OAL. Since most recommend to use 10% reduction as start charge, using conservative of two load data of 4.4 gr would give you 4.0 gr as start charge. However, since Bullseye produced snappy recoil but downloaded well for me in 9mm, I used even more conservative Lyman #49 lead load data of 3.4-4.2 gr start/max for 120 gr lead RN at 1.065", even though I was using longer 1.135" OAL with HBRN-TP bullet (for load development with very fast burning powders, I am chicken but have all of my fingers and both eyes :D).

I tested 3.5/3.8 gr of Bullseye with 124 gr HBRN-TP bullet which produced 2.0"/1.0" shot groups at 15 yards. Looking back, I probably should have tested 4.0 and 4.2 gr but I use mixed range brass with unknown reload history and condition of brass and since 3.8 gr produced comparable felt recoil of my W231/HP-38 reference load (115 gr FMJ with 4.8 gr W231/HP-38 at 1.135" OAL), I stopped at 3.8 gr. Mind you, I use 40-9 conversion barrels with much more metal around the chamber to withstand 9mm Major loads but I still exercise caution by choice (another reason why I switched from G17/19/26 to G22/23/27).

BTW, here's current Alliant load data - http://www.alliantpowder.com/reload...owderlist.aspx&type=1&powderid=1&cartridge=23
124 gr Speer GDHP Bullseye OAL 1.120" Max 4.4 gr (1,059 fps)

I hope this helped.
 
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Sorry to be late but mine likes 124's more than most 115's.

Watch the tight chamber. My 9mm EMP is very accurate, but some bullets do not work well in the tight chamber and have to be seated deeper which raises pressure. Work up carefully.
 
My Glocks will eat any weight in 9MM, my Taurus PT-99 will tumble any 147GR boolit, but shoots all others. May have something to do with powder charge and velocity. I currently do not have any 147GR boolits in the house.
 
While these were shot with 147 gr lead bullets, perhaps you can reference them to load the 147 gr plated bullets using Bullseye and Titegroup - http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=758158


Bullseye 2.7 gr - 1.46" with very light recoil (3)
Bullseye 2.9 gr - 1.30" with light recoil (4)
Bullseye 3.2 gr - 1.18" with light recoil (4)

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Titegroup 3.1 gr - 1.64" with mild recoil (5)
Titegroup 3.3 gr - 1.26" with mild recoil (6)
Titegroup 3.5 gr - 1.04" with moderate recoil (7)

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While these were shot with 147 gr lead bullets, perhaps you can reference them to load the 147 gr plated bullets using Bullseye and Titegroup - http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=758158


Bullseye 2.7 gr - 1.46" with very light recoil (3)
Bullseye 2.9 gr - 1.30" with light recoil (4)
Bullseye 3.2 gr - 1.18" with light recoil (4)

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Titegroup 3.1 gr - 1.64" with mild recoil (5)
Titegroup 3.3 gr - 1.26" with mild recoil (6)
Titegroup 3.5 gr - 1.04" with moderate recoil (7)

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Are these 9mm numbers on OAl? I've never gone beyond 1.169
 
My recent 9mm loads with Titegroup:

Titegroup 3.8 grains, Berrys 124 grain RN at 1.150 Accurate!
 
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