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Happy Days, Berdan Primers Are Back In Town

Discussion in 'Handloading and Reloading' started by PCCUSNRET, Jan 26, 2012.

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  1. PCCUSNRET

    PCCUSNRET Member

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    I just received 6,000 Berdan primers (Kv-7-62N) from Powder Valley today and very pleased to find they fit the Swiss GP-11 brass just fine. For those that think reloading Swiss Berdan primed brass is too big of a pain I'll gladly provide a home for any you wish to part with. It only takes about 10 seconds longer longer to reload a piece of Berdan primed GP-11 brass than it does to reload a boxer primed piece of Graf or Privi Partizan brass. This is about how long it takes to fill the case with water and then strike a metal rod with a hammer to force out the primer. May be a tad messy and not something you would want to do outside in the middle of Winter but once is warms up just a little effort on my part allows me to reload this brass 5 or 6 times before it gets tossed in the scrap bucket. I for one was extremely happy to see these primers available again and hope to get another 5k or so just in case they disappear again.
     

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    I will also be getting some with my next order in the near future. I do not use a punch and water, rather I got the RCBS tool and I think it works great. I only ruined about the first 4 then I got the hang of it and deprimed 300 without problems. My brass is ready to go and so am I as soon as I get the cash. Thanks for the heads up.:D
     
  3. edwin41

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    hello
    i was reading your post about the berdan type primers .
    i took a quick check in a ordercatalogue and you can order them by post.
    a german compagnie still makes them , the compagnie is called RWS.
    maby you could take a look at www. frankonia.de .
    they seem to be commonly available to me.
    greetings from holland !
     
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    they make a depriming tool
    it's kinda like a hook that grabs the primer and pulls it out
     
  5. David Wile

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    Hey folks,

    A tip of the hat to all of you determined guys. Hydraulic removal, hook removal, ordering primers from Europe. That is dedication.

    I have been reloading cartridges for quite some time, and most of it was done on single stage presses. I have also been casting my own bullets almost right from the very start, and in the last few years, I began to make my own gas checks. Since 1997 I have had a progressive metallic press, but I do not use the quick change die feature - never minded taking the time to change dies. In more than fifty years of reloading, I never minded one minute I spent at the reloading bench. I actually enjoy reloading.

    Having said how much I enjoy reloading, I would now mention that if I had to reload Berdan primed brass, I would go back to making arrows. I would rather pluck the chickens for feathers on arrows than mess with Berdan primers. For you dauntless souls who do reload those things, again, I tip my hat to you in respect.

    Best wishes,
    Dave Wile
     
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    The KV-762N primers are the same as PMC brought in some 12 years ago, and they shoot exceedingly well in the Swiss 7.5x55 brass. The work in many other types of brass with .217" Berdan primer pockets.

    Long ago, RWS Berdan primers were imported into the US. Those were great primers also, but have not been imported into the US in many years. Fiocchi Berdan primers were imported some 30 years ago, and they were excellent also.
     
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    Amen to that.

    If I can't find boxer primed brass, it doesn't get reloaded.


    NCsmitty
     
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    It's really not that difficult once you have the right tools. I removed the primers from 150 Berdan primed brass tonight and it only took me a little over a half an hour using the tool shown in my original post. I have one of the RCBS Berdan primer removal tools but just couldn't get the hang of it without destroying the anvil or making deep gouges in the rim. After the primers are removed there is really no difference in preparing the brass (other than there are 2 flash holes instead of one and I use a dental pik to clean them out before priming the brass). Not saying I wouldn't prefer reloading Boxer primed brass but just can't see throwing perfectly good brass in the scrap bucket when the primers are now available in the U.S.A. (and the cost is about $4.00 less than what I've been paying for CCI large rifle primers). By tomorrow evening I will have 150 pieces of this brass ready to load. BTW, removing these primers the second time is a lot easier than the first time since the original ones have three little indents holding them in the pockets.
     
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    I use the brass for where I have to abandon it after firing. IE some ranges.:banghead: Also I purchased some 7.62X54 brass cased ammo years ago for a really good price (330 RDS @ $22 IIRC X 40 spam cans). Now the boxer brass is costly and I can get 20+ reloads from that brass so why not spend a little extra effort and shoot with what others deem only scrap. I reload the berdan type in brass only as the other calibers I do it with also have readily available and inexpensive boxer brass for them for common usage unless I do have to abandon them so steel casings are not worth the hassle.
    David Wile I just might do it "cause I can" and wanted to prove I could to myself as opposed to why take the extra time and put up with the extra grief. I never really thought much about why I do some of the crazy things I do when reloading before:cool:
     
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