Has any ammo manufacturers announced plans to increase production?

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Seems like there has been an undersupply for a while now. Maybe they are skittish in buying equipment to address what they might think is a temporary shortage, but how about adding a shift at least if the lines are not already running 3 shifts?
 
well, in times where people are getting laid off, i don't think they are going to add any more shifts (extra shift - overtime). But then again, it's only my humble speculation.

on a side note. i did find 11 boxes of 100 rds WWB at wal mart. I was so surprised that they have it, i stood there for a good 5 mins, making sure it's the 9mm luger. After that i told the guy hey i want 8 of these, so i ran back out, grabbed a cart, then after some thought, i told him to load up everything they have. Should last me a good while.
 
Its so aggravating, The fundamental idea of Supply and Demand or Rather DEMAND for the ammo And the Supply of it is horribly failing. There is obviously a HUGE demand for ammo and nobody's jumping on the wagon to meet the supply and make big bucks, I guess capitalism has failed. **** IT, outsource to china, If people here don't want to up the supply of ammo let them do it for us. Hell the price might even go down some. I visited a few ammo sites including Remington and winchester however there is no news informing us what they intend to do. This is bull****, I can't even buy .22 bulk anymore ***
 
on a side note. i did find 11 boxes of 100 rds WWB at wal mart. I was so surprised that they have it, i stood there for a good 5 mins, making sure it's the 9mm luger. After that i told the guy hey i want 8 of these, so i ran back out, grabbed a cart, then after some thought, i told him to load up everything they have. Should last me a good while.
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i did the same this past weekend. sucks that i only had the cash for 6 boxes at the time.

i dont get why they havent been producing more either. even if they just opened up a bunch of temporary positions to make a third shift (eliminating the overtime aspect) for the duration of the shortage (i hope its just temporary)

same with the gun companies.
 
This is the free market system at work. It's simply supply and demand. Right now demand is outstripping supply. Complaining won't help. It won't last forever. Such shortages in consumer goods are always temporary.

At least two forum members have posted letters from ammo companies saying that they are producing at full capacity. I believe it. People are... for a couple of reasons... panicking and stocking up on ammo. I see them at the shows with handtrucks taking multiple cases of ammo out the door. The big dealers at shows can hardly get their tables set up before a crowd is clamoring to make purchases. Retail stores cannot stock enough inventory and some are limiting individual purchases trying to spread what they have around rather than tell some customers they are out of luck. Until this situation resolves itself ammo will be in short supply and prices will be high.
 
Bah, just got back from wally world...we have 3 in town, all sold out. If people want to have a small SHTF,, TEOTWAWKI stash, thats O. K but stock piling your entire closet full of ammo is just too much. What are people doing? Walking into wal mart with a hand truck and saying "load it up" and rolling out? Save some for me *******s!
 
There is obviously a HUGE demand for ammo and nobody's jumping on the wagon to meet the supply and make big bucks, I guess capitalism has failed.
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No capitalism has not failed, there are a few things though that ammo companies are concerned about:

First, this increased demand is probably temporary. Commercial reloading machines start at around $50,000, and that would be for a small machine that someone like Georgia Arms uses. Laying out a huge amount of net capital to meet the demand during times like these will not pay off in the long run.

Second, the political climate is uncertain. Anti-gunners control the Presidency, House, and Senate. Who knows what kind of laws might get passed that could upset ammo manufacturing?


Who says they want to increase supply? They can charge whatever they want right now for it why would they change?
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I don't think you have been paying good attention to prices. Prices for ammo have been going up for the past couple of years. This was due to increased cost of raw material. However, since Obama was elected and demand increased so greatly, price of the finished product has remained stable. There have been no big price increases so far this year.
 
f people want to have a small SHTF,, TEOTWAWKI stash, thats O. K but stock piling your entire closet full of ammo is just too much.
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Lack of planning on your part does not constitute an emergency on mine.

Seriously, in a free market economy those people have every right to buy all the ammo they can afford. The people that are getting the ammunition are the ones who are (or have been) diligent about getting it.

Would you prefer a command economy in which the government rations the ammunition out?
 
Listen, like I said, when you buy an entire closet of ammo that is TOO MUCH. Your fear is an inconvenience to me, a normal shooter. If I want to go to the store and buy a box of .22's I shouldn't have to be johnny on the spot when the ammo gets unwrapped from the pallet, its thinking like yours that has created this freaking situation.
 
Listen, like I said, when you buy an entire closet of ammo that is TOO MUCH.
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So you are in fact advocating a command economy? who gets to decide how much is enough?

Your fear is an inconvenience to me,
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Not my problem. Who are you decide how much ammunition I am allowed to buy?

, its thinking like yours that has created this freaking situation.
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I buy 3 boxes of ammunition week, I have been for a year & a half I doubt I'm the one causing the shortage
 
To address the OP... Remington and Winchester factories are working 24/7 right now pumping out as much as they can. Explained to me by an employee the once half full to full wharehouse that they shipped out of has been empty for sometime now. In other words, they are shipping directly from the assembly line as fast as they can produce it.
 
What are people doing? Walking into wal mart with a hand truck and saying "load it up" and rolling out?
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As a matter of fact, yes they are. I went by my local Wal Mart the other day and their shelves were empty for the first time I have seen. I asked what had happened and the clerk told me some guy had come in and bought out the entire stock in one shot. 40+ boxes of Blazer Brass 9mm, over a dozen boxes of WWB 9mm, and all of the bulk pack .22 they had.

Insane...
 
Seems to be easing up just a little around here

It's been pretty bad for the past several months. But anytime I find myself in a Wal-Mart (which isn't very often) I can pick up a box of WWB in each 9mm and 45acp recently. A few weeks ago, it was all pretty much unobtainable. The stuff that's almost impossible to get in my area is 380. I've only been able to get two boxes since early February; one at Wally World, the other at a local gunshop.

You hoarders out there make it pretty tough for the rest of us to hoard. ;)
 
I agree with Lone Gunman, the ammo companies are not about to lay out money for a huge expansion for what they know is a temporary condition, one way or another. Either the market will be satisfied, or there will be a ban on guns and ammo. Either way, the extra capacity would be wasted.

Of course, the problem really is us. One poster bragged that he had purchased ten cases of ammo and complained that he couldn't get more because of "all the hoarders out there."

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After that i told the guy hey i want 8 of these, so i ran back out, grabbed a cart, then after some thought, i told him to load up everything they have. Should last me a good while.

Which is why there is a shortage..........
 
That was 10 boxes not ten cases

Color me weird but even if I go short, I'd much rather ammo was sold first come first serve basis than under any type (except store imposed MAYBE) of rationing system
 
Prices for ammo have been going up for the past couple of years. This was due to increased cost of raw material. However, since Obama was elected and demand increased so greatly, price of the finished product has remained stable.
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Do note that lead and copper prices have dropped notably, so the raw materials increases which drove up prices in 2007 and 2008 aren't as applicable now.

Currently it's just demand outstripping supply. I've noted before that there has to be some practical limit, 99% of gunowners aren't going to fill up their closet and start stacking ammo in their kitchens. However, as a friend pointed out even if just 1 million gun owners think "hey, I hear ammo is short, better pick up an extra box at the store next time" just that little blip means another 50,000,000 rounds bought up. Enough little blips like that, combined with the 1% of buyers who are hoarding ammo by the pallet, and you get the current shortages.
 
Heard back from two suppliers...Olin and Federal...both are producing at 100% right now. The demand is just too great.

Wolf on the other hand was witholding ammo shipments to bump up prices. I understand they've resumed operations but I doubt we'll see it come down in price. They're too happy with the profits.
 
You know, everyone predicts that people will be selling guns if no AWB materializes... I predict that they'll be selling the large amounts of ammo they bought. It's one thing if you shoot a lot, but in a real SHTF, you can only take as much as you can reasonably carry. So that 10,000 rounds of .308 isn't going to do you much good if you have to leave home.
 
I'd give it a month and the market will be flooded...

From another thread on here a few days ago I heard that CCI was running 24 hours a day but had problems getting raw materials..
 
It seems almost impossible that the buying frenzy has gone on for as long as it has, with no real end in sight.

This should be one clue that the economy isn't really as bad as everyone says it is. There has been a lot of expendable money spent on ammo and guns in the past year.
 
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