Famaldehide Face
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Has S&W ever considered to manufacture M16's/Assault Rifles?, I know they have a long history of pistols but just thought if they would manufacture somthing like an assault rifle.
Has S&W ever manufactured Assault Rifles?
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DougDubya
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nalioth
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An AR-15 is not an assault rifle.An M-16 is an assault rifle.
A S&W 76 is a submachine gun.
Hands of blue
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Tell that To VA that require extra identification to purchase a AR since it is an "assault rifle"
DougDubya
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nalioth - ahhh nevermind.
guys, i know were big on debunking and eliminating the misleading terminology. but just saying
Famaldehide Face. theyre trying to say "assault rifle" is a selectfire rifle. like the Military M16 or a real AK47. its a term is used by anti's to make a semi automatic rifle sound evil and dangerous. we try not to use it unless we are talking about military selectfire rifles.
with out explaining doesn't help
Famaldehide Face. theyre trying to say "assault rifle" is a selectfire rifle. like the Military M16 or a real AK47. its a term is used by anti's to make a semi automatic rifle sound evil and dangerous. we try not to use it unless we are talking about military selectfire rifles.
bannockburn
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I believe S&W had a semi-automatic carbine, chambered in 9mm., called the Model 1940. It was submitted in early U.S. Army trials as one of the posssible replacements for the Thompson sub-machine gun. Instead the M3 Grease Gun was adopted.
rodregier
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S&W model 76 SMG, Vietnam era.
http://www.warboats.org/mst2Bremmer/Stoner_ord_notes/stonerhtml/S&W_Model_76.htm
http://www.warboats.org/mst2Bremmer/Stoner_ord_notes/stonerhtml/S&W_Model_76.htm
Frog48
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I dunno about yall, but I use mine to "assault" paper targets and small furry animals...
TexasRifleman
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Sure it's not "assault weapon"?
There's a difference....
MikePGS
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By many people's standards, the M&P 15 would constitute an "assault rifle".
Technosavant
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And according to many, it also fires from a "clip." And the Glock on the hip of the SWAT team member is a "revolver."
We can choose to call things according to their correct names or we can adopt the terminology of those who would see us tossed in jail for owning ANY gun. Your pick.
jerkface11
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So S&W doesn't have an LEO version that's full auto?
Ash
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No, I think they brand their own AR but that it is made by others.
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Frog48
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When the M&P15 first came out a year or two ago, it was made by Stag and labeled as S&W.
Jim Watson
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The Smith & Wesson Light Rifle, ca 1940, was a semi-auto 9mm. It was a terrible flop.
Not exactly an assault rifle, which term did not come along until the Germans took up the question, but you have to start somewhere.
Not exactly an assault rifle, which term did not come along until the Germans took up the question, but you have to start somewhere.
From wikipedia:
The term assault rifle is a translation of the German word Sturmgewehr (literally meaning "storm rifle"), "storm" used as a verb being synonymous with assault, as in "to storm the compound". Sturmgewehr was coined by Adolf Hitler [citation needed] to describe the Maschinenpistole 44, subsequently re-christened Sturmgewehr 44, the firearm generally considered the first true assault rifle and served to popularize the concept. The translation “assault rifle” gradually became the common term for similar firearms sharing the same technical definition as the name giver StG 44. In a strict definition, a firearm must have at least the following characteristics to be considered an assault rifle:[1][2][3]
*A carbine sized individual weapon with provision to fire from the shoulder.
*Capable of selective fire.
*Intermediate-power cartridge between pistol and traditional rifle.
*Ammunition is supplied from a large capacity detachable box magazine.
The following features are commonly found on assault rifles, but those are not exclusive to assault rifles, as those features are shared with many submachine guns, battle rifles, automatic rifles, machine guns, and semi-automatic rifles:
*Protruding pistol grip.
*Muzzle device like a muzzle brake or a flash suppressor.
There are commentators who use the expression “assault rifle” more loosely to include other types of arms, particularly arms that fall under a strict definition of the battle rifle, or civilian semi-automatic off-shoots of military rifles for commercial or political reasons. Some militaries of nations outside of the English-speaking world also have a different definition of assault rifle. For instance, the analogous term in the Swedish Armed Forces is automatkarbin (literally "automatic carbine") which includes both assault rifles and battle rifles.
References
1. C. Taylor The fighting rifle – A complete study of the rifle in combat, ISBN 0-87947-308-8
2. F.A. Moyer Special Forces foreign weapons handbook, ISBN 0-87364-009-8
3. R.J. Scroggie, F.A. Moyer Special Forces combat firing techniques, ISBN 0-87364-010-1
The term assault rifle is a translation of the German word Sturmgewehr (literally meaning "storm rifle"), "storm" used as a verb being synonymous with assault, as in "to storm the compound". Sturmgewehr was coined by Adolf Hitler [citation needed] to describe the Maschinenpistole 44, subsequently re-christened Sturmgewehr 44, the firearm generally considered the first true assault rifle and served to popularize the concept. The translation “assault rifle” gradually became the common term for similar firearms sharing the same technical definition as the name giver StG 44. In a strict definition, a firearm must have at least the following characteristics to be considered an assault rifle:[1][2][3]
*A carbine sized individual weapon with provision to fire from the shoulder.
*Capable of selective fire.
*Intermediate-power cartridge between pistol and traditional rifle.
*Ammunition is supplied from a large capacity detachable box magazine.
The following features are commonly found on assault rifles, but those are not exclusive to assault rifles, as those features are shared with many submachine guns, battle rifles, automatic rifles, machine guns, and semi-automatic rifles:
*Protruding pistol grip.
*Muzzle device like a muzzle brake or a flash suppressor.
There are commentators who use the expression “assault rifle” more loosely to include other types of arms, particularly arms that fall under a strict definition of the battle rifle, or civilian semi-automatic off-shoots of military rifles for commercial or political reasons. Some militaries of nations outside of the English-speaking world also have a different definition of assault rifle. For instance, the analogous term in the Swedish Armed Forces is automatkarbin (literally "automatic carbine") which includes both assault rifles and battle rifles.
References
1. C. Taylor The fighting rifle – A complete study of the rifle in combat, ISBN 0-87947-308-8
2. F.A. Moyer Special Forces foreign weapons handbook, ISBN 0-87364-009-8
3. R.J. Scroggie, F.A. Moyer Special Forces combat firing techniques, ISBN 0-87364-010-1
cluttonfred
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The short answer is, no, S&W has never manufactured M-16 variants for the USG or any other assault rifles, though they have produced their own submachine guns (WWII and Vietnam eras) and the are now selling an S&W-branded semi-automatic AR-15 clone which is apprenently manufactured for them by others.
cluttonfred
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Correction, the WWII product was semi-automatic and not a success.
Follow this link and scroll down for nice pics of the Smith & Wesson Light Rifle Model 1940.
An here is a link to the far more successful Vietnam-era Smith & Wesson M76, a licensed copy of the Swedish Carl Gustaf M/45 SMG, not to be confused with the recoilless rifle, not that you're likely to mix up the ammunition.
Follow this link and scroll down for nice pics of the Smith & Wesson Light Rifle Model 1940.
An here is a link to the far more successful Vietnam-era Smith & Wesson M76, a licensed copy of the Swedish Carl Gustaf M/45 SMG, not to be confused with the recoilless rifle, not that you're likely to mix up the ammunition.
rcmodel
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Well, you certainly don't want any of those S&W handcuffs.
They got two locks on them!
And unsightly holes for the keys!
rcmodel
S&W currently makes AR clones under the M&P nomenclature. If a police force wanted a select fire one, they could probably get one.
BTW, I don't see why AR-15 automatically means semiauto. The first thousands of AR-15s made were assuredly select-fire. When the US military formally adopted them they gave them the M16, M4 etc. nomenclatures. Most semiautos ARs are not even rollmarked AR-15, even in Colt guns.
BTW, I don't see why AR-15 automatically means semiauto. The first thousands of AR-15s made were assuredly select-fire. When the US military formally adopted them they gave them the M16, M4 etc. nomenclatures. Most semiautos ARs are not even rollmarked AR-15, even in Colt guns.
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