Have a look North don't let it happen to you

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Spokesman Jean-Christophe de Le Rue wrote, "Minister Blaney will take appropriate action to ensure that firearms owners who acted in good faith are not penalized as a result of the actions of others."
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Well that's great that the good-faithful (ex-?) firearms owners won't be punished as a result of the dastardly actions of the nasty bad ones who don't want to forfeit their evil dangerous weapons of destruction.

Glad to see the good guys [strike]win[/strike], [strike]not lose[/strike], ... uh, give up peacefully and be allowed to continue to exist.

 
This is a possible opportunity to push the only semi-pro-gun federal party (and the one currently in power) to make sweeping changes to the federal Firearm Act.

The legislation in its current form is horribly broken from an administrative and rights protection perspective.

Whether this opportunity can be realized is another matter entirely, since the party in power wanted to be perceived as centrist. There are all sorts of folks on the anti-gun side who will see and portray any moves to clean up the Firearm Act as pandering to gun owners. That would not be a good thing as far as the Conservative Party's aspirations to get re-elected in 2015.

Playing the "out of control bureaucrats" card might be one of the few openings we'll get in that regard. The RCMP's star doesn't shine as brightly as it once did in the Great White North.
 
Keep in mind that there is no currently recognized meaningful RKBA in Canada. In the absence of that, it's a much more difficult prospect to fight against the mindset of people who would be perfectly happy to see all civilian ownership of firearms in Canada eliminated.

Salami slicing by firearm type and group non-cohesion ("my personal ox isn't being gored") dissipate political effectiveness of the pro-firearm players.

Firearm ownership as a single-issue voter attribute is a very small factor in the current Canadian political scene, even if the number of people who possess same is a much larger percentage of the population.
 
What do you mean by: "The classification status for the affected firearms has been confirmed online as having been changed by the RCMP."

Does that mean someone on a online message board says so or that the RCMP website has made an official announcement? I can't find anything that says the RCMP has made an official announcement.

I do find it ironic that this whole thing was started by the importer of the rifles complaining to the RCMP about a competing importer's rifle.
 
lilguy said:
The right for citizens to be armed is a political decision not withstanding anything written in a document. A more liberal Supreme Court in the US could
overturn the recent gun rights case and we'd be in big trouble. Imagine if Kennedy had sided with those that do Not see an individual right outside the militia. The vote of One justice saved our bacon. The reason we still have our guns is because there are still enough of us that will vote the antis out and that's
what matters.
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Which is why it is crucial that we make as many of our fellow citizens aware of the true nature of our right. Our governments need to be put back into fearing We The People, instead of visa-versa:

"Where the people fear the government you have tyranny. Where the government fears the people you have liberty."
 
Status of models of firearms in Canada is a function of the online-maintained Firearm Reference Table. If a model's status has been changed by the RCMP, one of the first steps taken is that the RCMP will update the online FRT. (change from non-restricted to prohibited status for many of that model in that case). After that, the RCMP portion of the Canadian Firearm Centre can start into all of the downstream processes, like notifications to registered owners (restricted) and hunting for possible addresses for owner who were not required to register (non-restricted).

Since there are gov't authorized verifiers for firearms who have lawful access to the FRT, this is one of the earliest ways a non-gov't entity can confirm the status change.
 
Banning the weapon is only half of the story. I have no doubt the weapon will be banned after reading up of the history of the case and the similarity between the models in question.

There has been no confirmation that the weapons will be seized without compensation. The RCMP have changed their mind on weapons before but the owners were compensated.
 
It's still a fluid situation. Federal legislators who in theory control the RCMP are still examining their options. A vaguely worded 5-year amnesty on possession and prosecutions was announced in the House of Commons.
 
While I like Canada and its peoples and I do sympathize with their plight, I'm glad I live nearly as far from the northern border as possible... just nearly 'too far' south.
 
Just to try and stay on-topic, the Federal situation in Canada continues to be fluid. Legal council for the government are trying to determine the nature of the amnesty declared by the relevant Minister in Parliament.

The original RCMP action has created a large enough firestorm (affecting 10,000 firearm owners directly) that it is being used as a wedge by the pro-gun organizations to try and get the whole broken Firearm Act revisted and reworked. It's an open question if the current federal party holding power want to make such a huge leap, but being made to look foolish and irrelevant by the RCMP might motivate them in ways that simpler intellectual appeals from the firearm community have not.

Mass letter-writing campaigns and meetings with pro-gun lobbiests are ongoing...
 
It's been reported/rumored that the SA vz-58/CZ858 rifles are now also included in this ban?

This is why we don't have registration in Arizona and other Free States, and are working on getting rid of registration and idiotic bans in states that do have them, to restore liberty and the rule of Constitutional law.
I certainly hope our Canadian friends can get this idiocy overturned soon, and some sanity returns.
 
Yes, the list of prohibited firearms has been expanded to include later production units of the CZ858. Count of recently prohibited firearms is now around 13,000.

This concrete example of the insanity that emerges from the arcane Firearm Act may actually give the pro-firearm community in Canada a handle to push for getting it replaced with much more sane legislation and associated rules.

Postcard campaign:

https://nfa.ca/sites/default/files/NFA%20Postcard_0.pdf
 
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