Have Any Of You Had This Problem Before?

[Blackpowdershooter44]

I was out shooting my 1851 navy today, after shooting a few cylinders full, I put my gun down to reload.
I then noticed that my barrel stud had fallen out. Have any of you had this happen before?

 

[4v50 Gary]

Some folks deepen the engagement to prevent this. Let's hear from our members who are more experienced than I with the 1851.

 

[Wildfire]

Common

It is a common issue with those. But the best answer was already given.

 

[Blackpowdershooter44]

It's not a 'loading lever catch' its a barrel stud. My bad sorry guys

 

[Wildfire]

By Barrel stud, do mean the flat that holds the barrel in?

 

[Wildfire]

If this is the part you are talking about, Yes. Mine broke the screw and I ended up making a new one. That took a while to get it right.
The screw must have that Flat on it.

 

[Blackpowdershooter44]

Sorry guys, I was trying to find the right terminology for the catch, and I went on taylors and co. website and their schematic showed the 'catch' as a barrel stud. Check it out.

http://www.taylorsfirearms.com/1851-navy-parts.html

 

[Wildfire]

Best I can tell they were welded or Solder on. Does it look that way?
Did you find the part?
Or was it dove tailed in place?

 

[mr wack]

if it's dovetailed in you could peen it in like you might do on a sight

 

[Wildfire]

Yep, Peen it in or I use valve lapping compound and smear it on then push the part in and they stay.
Peen is more perm.

 

[Jim K]

The barrel stud (that the loading lever latch fits into) was not and is not normally welded, soldered, glued, or peened; it is drive/press fitted into a dovetail and should stay there, the same as, say, the rear sight of a Model 1911 should stay there. One that falls out says a lot about the maker's lack of quality control.

Jim

 

[MaterDei]

I always get a kick out of the 'has anybody had this happen to them' or 'has anybody seen one of these before' threads.

This community is so diverse and experienced that I've never seen one of those questions go unanswered for more than an hour or two, irrespective of how obscure the question might be. Gotta love this place.

 

[olgeorge]

Barrel stud

I had a Remington clone which had a barrel stud that fit so tightly in the dovetail that it made a bulge in the bore. There was about 0.032" thickness of barrel between the stud dovetail and the bore. I cut the barrel off behind the bulge, thinned the dovetail part of the stud to about half the original thickness, then cut a new dovetail in the barrel to a sliding fit to the stud. After that I soft soldered it in place and shortened the rammer to fit. Made a new sight, taller than the original. and fit it the same way. L. O. G.

 

[Jim K]

Hmmm. Sort of like curing acne by cutting off one's head, but I guess it worked.

Jim

 

[Panzerschwein]

I always get a kick out of the 'has anybody had this happen to them' or 'has anybody seen one of these before' threads.

This community is so diverse and experienced that I've never seen one of those questions go unanswered for more than an hour or two, irrespective of how obscure the question might be. Gotta love this place.

Yes, a great place to learn and share.

 

[Wildfire]

WOW!

 

[Hellgate]

You could peen the rammer latch catch (barrel stud) or simply degrease the area and put in a little epoxy and put it back in and it ain't gonna move. Peening causes some disfigurement. The epoxy can be wiped away and made to look pretty clean and is another permanent fix. JB Weld would work too.

 

[FiveStrings]

Yes this has happened to me before, on a Pietta 1860 Army. JB Welding the first replacement was a failure. Peening the second replacement was a success. It's never budged since.

 

[Cowhide Cliff]

Never had one of those come out but I've had sights fall off. A little peening of the part to make an interference fit and some JB Weld works wonders if you don't want to mess up the bluing by soldering.

 

[44 Dave]

You can "upset", with a small sharp punch, the back before putting it back in then slightly punch the mortise with a flat punch after installing.

 

[whughett]

Yes on two guns.

Well, on an 1862 Police at least. Had to order a new one. the replacement proved to be a good fit when tapped it.

The second and current is on a Uberti 1847 Walker. Not technically a "stud" I suppose. Its the lever retaining spring dovetailed into the barrel that the load lever snaps into.

 

[Blackpowdershooter44]

I'm going to try to put epoxy on the stud and tap it in and see if it works, and if it doesn't hold up I'll try peening it

 

[Blackpowdershooter44]

Well I FINALLY fixed this, hit the sides of the barrel stud slot a few times with a prick punch, applied some jb weld and tapped the stud in. We'll see how it holds up.

 

[Crawdad1]

I was shooting some heavy loads out of my 1860 Army repro (45 Long Colts and I'll never do that again) and blew the front sight off of it in the process. I put a dab of JB Weld into trough and tapped the front sight back in. Been there ever since so I'm betting that the JB Weld will work on your problem as well.

 

[Blackpowdershooter44]

That's good to hear crawdad, I'm hoping it'll work out