johnbmwe34
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Just wanna know. Do you get charged for consuming stolen guns or you actually have to comitted the crime to get charged if that the case? Thanx!
Have anyone ever experienced dealing with a stolen gun? What was the outcome?
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keyhole
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As with all legal stuff, depends on the location, and circumstances surrounding whatever agency deals with it. As a LEO, when I have encountered one, it has been someone who bought it, unkowing, and usually the only bad thing was they lost the gun, as it was taken. One was a good friend of mine, who regretted not having called me when he got it, to see if it was stolen. ( he found out a year later when he tried to trade it for another gun at a local gun store) You might be able to check with your local agency, and they should run the gun thru NCIC to check for you.
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Many years after I sold a gun to an individual I rec'd a call. Individual had his guns stolen while he was having surgery. A couple of years later it seems his son was trying to pawn the guns for dope he had (with friends) stolen from his dad.
My records, deposition with Insurance Co, LEO... allowed individual to retrieve all his formerly stolen guns. Somehow the kid had held onto them,and though suspected at time of theft, never really looked at hard, or charged.
Kid had a problem, this and others"infractions" allowed him time to get off dope...at the expense of the state.
My records, deposition with Insurance Co, LEO... allowed individual to retrieve all his formerly stolen guns. Somehow the kid had held onto them,and though suspected at time of theft, never really looked at hard, or charged.
Kid had a problem, this and others"infractions" allowed him time to get off dope...at the expense of the state.
When I was in high school, a friend of a friend "lifted" one of my father's revolvers from the pistol display case. We found out when my father did an inventory that night.
I cornered the guy at school, told him the sitation and said that if the gun was returned in our mailbox by the next morning, we would take no action with the authorities.
Wouldn't ya know, it was in the mailbox the next morning!
I cornered the guy at school, told him the sitation and said that if the gun was returned in our mailbox by the next morning, we would take no action with the authorities.
Wouldn't ya know, it was in the mailbox the next morning!
My Dad only has power tools
Sold a gun in a shop I worked in many years ago that turned out to be stolen from the next state serveral years previous.
At the time it was near impossible for a shop to run the numbers to check.
But the customer was pulled over for speeding and when the LEO ran the numbers he kept the piece. This was in a town of about 4500 and the buyer was known to the LEO (as was the shop where he purchased it since the shop was owned by LEO's) so the buyer wasn't hauled away.
The next day the LEO's got the information from our records and visited the guy who had traded in the pistol. Turns out he was a felon in the next state and our own state background check hadn't caught it! He even had a CCW!
The shop replaced the pistol to the customer (purchase price credit) and ate it. But nothing else came of it for either the shop or the buyer.
Obviously, YMMV!
RON in PA
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Bought a Ruger Old Army from a dealer at a gun show (a dealer that I had made a few purchases from before) and paid with a credit card . Sometime later I received a call from the ATF, it seems that the Ruger was a hot gun, stolen, with others, from a gun store. The ATF agent came to my house and confiscated the Old Army. The dealer returned my money so I didn't lose out financially. The only reason the gun was tracable to me was because of the credit card transaction, otherwise I would still have it. Still see the dealer at gun shows and we have a chuckle over the incident. The bad guys that sold the guns to the dealer (he was innocent of any wrongdoing) are cooling their heels in prison.
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OEF_VET
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stolen gun..
I bought a Taurus 66 from a pawn shop several years ago, about a year later, I used it to get a short time loan from a different pawn shop. A month or so after I picked it up, I was contacted by the Logan County (KY) Sheriff's Office. Apparently, the gun was stolen 4 years prior, before I had even moved to KY. I had to surrender the weapon to the Deputy's, who then went to see the shop where I bought it. After about a week and a phone call from a JAG lawyer, the pawn shop gave me my money back. The pawn shop had a sign up that said they check all items with all area LEO's to see if they're stolen or not. Apparently they didn't do a very good job that time.
I bought a Taurus 66 from a pawn shop several years ago, about a year later, I used it to get a short time loan from a different pawn shop. A month or so after I picked it up, I was contacted by the Logan County (KY) Sheriff's Office. Apparently, the gun was stolen 4 years prior, before I had even moved to KY. I had to surrender the weapon to the Deputy's, who then went to see the shop where I bought it. After about a week and a phone call from a JAG lawyer, the pawn shop gave me my money back. The pawn shop had a sign up that said they check all items with all area LEO's to see if they're stolen or not. Apparently they didn't do a very good job that time.
itgoesboom
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I had a Ruger Blackhawk stolen out of my truck when i lived in San Diego. Officers came to the scene, took a report and left. A few months later i moved up to Oregon, so i called the SDPD to let them know where i was incase they found the pistol somehow. They told me there was no chance that i would ever get it back, cuz if they found it, then most likely it would have been used in a crime. Told me to consider it gone.
8-9 months go by, and my old landlady calls me to let me know that there was an FBI agent looking for me at my old residence. I call him up, and sure enough, they got my pistol back. Took them a few months to track me down, because the officers who took the report on the pistol made a mistake on the serial number on the report. They had the serial number wrong by 1 number (ironically, that pistol was also sold in San Diego County). So when they punched in the serial number on the pistol, it didn't come up as stolen. But it came back as registered (remember this is California) to me. So they went to track me down and found out that i had the same type of pistol stolen, and they finally figured it out.
So a couple months ago, i provided the FBI with photographs of my pistol and its serial number, and they showed me photos they had taken, and it still looks to be in great condition.
So, now, if they guy pleads guilty, i will get the pistol back by mid summer. If he goes to trial, i will get it back after the trial.
Thank God that the FBI is handling the situation rather than the SDPD, otherwise i would never get it back.
I.G.B.
8-9 months go by, and my old landlady calls me to let me know that there was an FBI agent looking for me at my old residence. I call him up, and sure enough, they got my pistol back. Took them a few months to track me down, because the officers who took the report on the pistol made a mistake on the serial number on the report. They had the serial number wrong by 1 number (ironically, that pistol was also sold in San Diego County). So when they punched in the serial number on the pistol, it didn't come up as stolen. But it came back as registered (remember this is California) to me. So they went to track me down and found out that i had the same type of pistol stolen, and they finally figured it out.
So a couple months ago, i provided the FBI with photographs of my pistol and its serial number, and they showed me photos they had taken, and it still looks to be in great condition.
So, now, if they guy pleads guilty, i will get the pistol back by mid summer. If he goes to trial, i will get it back after the trial.
Thank God that the FBI is handling the situation rather than the SDPD, otherwise i would never get it back.
I.G.B.
I probably have, never knew it for sure though. I used to work at a full service gas station, now & then someone would come in needing cash for gas & offer a gun for sale.
I once bought a Stevens double barrel 12ga. The next day it is reported on the news that there was a bank robbery in another part of the state and the weapon used was a double 12ga.
I took the gun to the court house to show it to the Sheriff. (Imagine doing that today, walking up three flights of stairs at the court house with a shotgun and no one paid any attention!)
Sheriff told me the guys had been caught then chewed my butt for buying guns from strangers. Told me If that gun had been used in a robbery he would have to arrest me! "Damn, Paul" I said, "You know it couldn't have been me, I was servicing your car that day!" He said it wouldn't matter, I was in possession of it.
He let me keep the gun, didn't even run the numbers as far as I know.
I once bought a Stevens double barrel 12ga. The next day it is reported on the news that there was a bank robbery in another part of the state and the weapon used was a double 12ga.
I took the gun to the court house to show it to the Sheriff. (Imagine doing that today, walking up three flights of stairs at the court house with a shotgun and no one paid any attention!)
Sheriff told me the guys had been caught then chewed my butt for buying guns from strangers. Told me If that gun had been used in a robbery he would have to arrest me! "Damn, Paul" I said, "You know it couldn't have been me, I was servicing your car that day!" He said it wouldn't matter, I was in possession of it.
He let me keep the gun, didn't even run the numbers as far as I know.
Byron Quick
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Well, I was on the receiving end.
Pre WWII FN Highpower 95 to 98 percent. Serial number 47712.
I'm still hoping that it will be found.
Pre WWII FN Highpower 95 to 98 percent. Serial number 47712.
I'm still hoping that it will be found.
When I was VERY young(and much stoopider than now), I was sitting in a bar and encountered a seedy-looking guy who needed quick cash for a gun. I was blinded by avarice and made a deal. Duh! Stupidity alert! I think it was 25 bucks for a very nice stainless S&W snubby .38 with custom rosewood grips. I took it shooting a few times but shame and paranoia was setting in and I kept getting an itchy feeling every time I picked it up. I had a friend of my fathers run a check on the serial number. He wouldnt tell me how hot it was(think nuclear), but by the look on his face I assumed that it had been used in some crime. He wanted nothing to do with it. I destroyed the revolver right away. I should have given it to the police but I was too scared. I took a cutting torch and MELTED it down. All the way down to nothing but a puddle of blackened steel. I kept the puddle for a couple of years on my mantle to remind me not to be so stupid next time. That reminder helped when a couple of years later when another friend and I were offered, very quietly, a full-auto M16 w/ a buncha mags for 200 bucks. The offer came from a third party who got the rifle from a dirtbag who was AWOL and had snuck some gear and guns out as well. We showed no interest at all and I heard the seller was scooped up by the cops a week later. I have definitely learned my lesson and I am all legal now. You live and learn, and learn, and learn....
Michael in Sandy, OR
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