Have to brag on Alaska.

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Washington got a 17? WTH?!? Get your laws off my guns (all lost in a tragic boating accident).
 
I ran the stats with last year's scores and tried to correlate them to crime statistics (mainly from the Uniform Crime Report). There was no correlation of stricter gun control with murder rate, violent crime rate, or rate of guns used in crime. There was a correlation of lower Brady score with the percent of suicides where guns were used, but no correlation with overall suicide rate (ie gun control decreases the number of suicides where guns are used, but people just find another way).

The strongest correlations with the Brady score were population density and gun ownership rate--the states with lower population density had lower Brady scores and higher gun ownership rates, which is unsurprising given the relation between population density and gun ownership. It does show that gun control works for the one thing that the Bradys really care about--decreasing the number of people who own guns. It's not really about crime with them.
 
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I think we all know what they're definition of "common sense" is.
Be lucky to have a de-milled Brown Bess if they wrote the law.
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You're joking but Mass. DID outlaw reproduction blackpowder Brown Bess'. They took it more seriously when all the public events around the historic sites stopped and they had to reverse some rules so anyone would come to Lexington and Concord anymore...
 
Looks like CO scooted by WA. Although the anti-2nd clowns are going to try their useless junk here.

Speaking of CO how are those recalls coming along?
 
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There might be a lot of shifting around if/when brady bunch does another rating considering all the pro-gun bills after their 2011 rating and the ridiculous knee jerk legislation after Sandyhook. Anyone know how often they do their rankings?
 
If AK had stricter gun laws to "curb gun violence":barf:, I'm sure they'd rank the highest for bear violence:). But what does the Brady Campaign care about actually curbing violence and crime. They just want guns out of the hands of the people.
 
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I ran the stats with last year's scores and tried to correlate them to crime statistics (mainly from the Uniform Crime Report). There was no correlation of stricter gun control with murder rate, violent crime rate, or rate of guns used in crime. There was a correlation of lower Brady score with the percent of suicides where guns were used, but no correlation with overall suicide rate (ie gun control decreases the number of suicides where guns are used, but people just find another way).

The strongest correlations with the Brady score were population density and gun ownership rate--the states with lower population density had lower Brady scores and higher gun ownership rates, which is unsurprising given the relation between population density and gun ownership. It does show that gun control works for the one thing that the Bradys really care about--decreasing the number of people who own guns. It's not really about crime with them.
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I've been wanting to do a proper statistical study on this for quite some time. I've been hesitant to do it because I know that there are so many non-gun related factors that there probably isn't a large enough sample size to fit a real model based on only 50 states. Finding correlations amongst variables is only one way to start picking variables. Doing it correctly also requires so much math that its unlikely that anyone interested in reading the report actually could.
 
I'm ok with Maine at a 7 though I expected a little better. I feel infected just having visited that site though. If I could run a virus and spyware scan on my mobile device I would right now.
 
The first page of their site is sad. They are proud of CA's "assault clip ban". What is that? Most clips only have 3-10 rounds and are for old military rifles. They also mention that 31 states do something more than 5 other states. Really? I bet the last five people to read this post have more eyeballs combined than the first one. These folks are Proof that modern technology hinders natural selection.
 
hirundo82 said:
I ran the stats with last year's scores and tried to correlate them to crime statistics (mainly from the Uniform Crime Report). There was no correlation of stricter gun control with murder rate, violent crime rate, or rate of guns used in crime. There was a correlation of lower Brady score with the percent of suicides where guns were used, but no correlation with overall suicide rate (ie gun control decreases the number of suicides where guns are used, but people just find another way).

The strongest correlations with the Brady score were population density and gun ownership rate--the states with lower population density had lower Brady scores and higher gun ownership rates, which is unsurprising given the relation between population density and gun ownership. It does show that gun control works for the one thing that the Bradys really care about--decreasing the number of people who own guns. It's not really about crime with them.
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All good points. And if we weave the proliferation of video cameras into these studies, the correlation becomes even more muddied. For example, a friend of mine is in the business of commercial installations of video cameras, and the corresponding decline in crime at these locations is dramatic and completely independent of the gun issue---though both sides of the gun argument quote these statistics to support their position.

I think it is overly simplistic and misleading to suggest that certain states are more "freedom minded" than others, or that there is more civility amongst their populace. It would be an interesting study in social enginnering to take the population of an entire county in some of the "free" states and cram them into a single apartment complex---as we have here in New York City, for example---arm them, and see how well they get along after a year or so. Only then can we claim the civility high ground.

I'm not particulary proud of the state in which I live, especially after the passage of the "S.A.F.E." act, and wish that I could pack up and leave. But life is not quite so simple. Besides, the draconian measures foisted upon us here in NY can find their way to any state---all it takes is a few signatures by "right minded" people (legislators) elected to office. Fun fact: your average New York resident isn't even aware of the seven-round magazine restriction, let alone the tenets of the SAFE Act. Outside of the so-called "gun culture," most people aren't even concerned. Bet your state is the same.

By the way, New York (ranked #4 at 62 points!) is a collection of fiefdoms called counties, each having distinctly different gun laws. Where I live in Orange County, for example, I can tote my Model 29 in a shoulder rig through the supermarket if I choose to do so, or hunt whitetail with a .30-06 or .357 magnum or shotgun or crossbow. But my neighbors in Rockland County cannot. Nor can my friends in Suffolk County. Heck, some of them can't even own a pellet rifle.

And New York City is another matter entirely, a world unto itself.
 
Go Indiana. A good solid 4!!! No open carry without the same license as CC probably gets us those if the Brady people care about that.
 
I have to hand it to the Brady campaign though. When I am doing research into the best places to live, I look at their list of "worst" states.
 
Necroposting! Nice additions to a 2011 thread, guys.
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Brady is still active, and doing their best to take our guns. Doesn't matter how "necro" the thread is.
 
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