Was at the range yesterday with Alan, Troy fairweathers dad, there were 4 other guys there when we arrived. A young man, 19 yo, was shooting a new 22 lr semi auto using rem Golden tips. Gave him a handful of federal automatch to try out. He asked if they were any good. Said I don't know I've never used them, but afterwards he said they shot 2 in at 100 yds in his gun and is buying more. Let the same young man shoot my 243 win. He got a first shot cold bore hit at 300eters. Said he liked it better than his mossberg map in 6.5 Creedmoor.