Hawaii Gun Laws

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Some of you may remeber from my previous posts that my wife and I are planning to move to Orlando early next year. Well, her new boss called today to inquire if we would be interested in moving to Honolulu, Hawaii instead. :what: This move would be moving up two job levels for my wife, rather than one level for the Florida move, so we will have to consider it.

Is there anyone here who lives in Hawaii that could share your experiences with the gun laws/gun culture (shows, ranges, organizations, competitions, etc.) out there? Based on what little research I've done, the laws pretty much suck relative to my current state of Virginia and of Florida. :uhoh:

Odds are we will not be moving, but I want to know as much as possible just in case.
 
I don't know the specifics (someone should be along soon), but from what I recall Hawaii is like CA+IL+E. Gremany.

I believe gun ownership is very restricted. Again, this is what I have heard, and some should be along with first hand experience or relevent statutes.
 
I was stationed there for seven years but the last time I was there was 1982. Then, every gun had to be registered in person downtown at the police department. There was only one window for service, one building in one island. You had to register everything you brought in and everything you bought there. At the time there were no restrictions on gun type or quantity. I don't imagine things have gotten any better.
 
I've read about them a little bit and their gun laws suck. Like one person said you have to register everything ect; But I'd still move there in a heartbeat. I love the attitude of the people.
 
There is also an AWB of some type and magazine restrictions. You can only transport a firearm to and from your residence, gunsmith, gunshop, police dept. and your place of business. 100% registration.

Hawaii's gun laws are just one of the reasons I moved away after 24 years..

http://www.packing.org/state/hawaii/
 
Hi,

I know a bit about the firearms laws of Hawaii. I am the Secretary of the Hawaii Rifle Association and the Vice-President of LIFE (Lessons in Firearms Education), a club of NRA certified firearms instructors.

I will give you a basic rundown when I get home tonight. I am currently at work and can only take so much time 'playing' on the forums.

Be back in about 5-6 hours.

migoi
 
10rd limit on pistol magazines - misdomeaner for possession of >10, felony if caught with >10 inserted into pistol

no magazine limit on rifles but magazines that fit in pistols and rifles are a gray area, eg, AR rifles and AR pistols...some stores sell normal cap AR mags, others will say they are illegal.

mandatory registration of firearms - registration is part of the permit to acquire process, out of state persons coming into hawaii must register their firearms within 3 days...even if it's only for a temporary hunting trip.

need to pass handgun safey course/hunter education course(or military/LE training) to purchase a handgun

need to apply for permit to acquire a handgun every time you purchase a handgun.

need to apply for long gun permit once a year.

two week waiting period for hanguns. none for long gun.

technically a may issue state, more accurrate to say it's a no issue state. no reciprocity with any state.

ARs, AKs, semi-auto anything is generally legal.

you are allowed to buy bare frames/receivers.

there's no purchase quantity limit, eg., there's no 1 gun/month limit to purchases.

castle doctrine - you don't have a duty to retreat, but anyone involved in a shooting automatically gets arrested for attempted murder or murder(depending on if the target survives)whether the shooting was justified or not(honolulu pd policy, not sure what neighbor island PD policy is). after investigation, if justified they do not charge you with a crime.

island of oahu has one public range operated by honolulu city and county(www.khsc.info), has skeet, trap, ipsc, met sillouette range, bullseye pistol, 100yd rifle w/metal targets @ 200 & 400 yds, and archery range.

oahu also has indoor pistol range operated by private gun shop(www.magnum50.com).

military ranges also available: for military and under certain conditions general public: www.puuloa.com, puuloa rifle&pistol club holds high power matches that are open to the public, but their club restricts the number of non-military members which entitles you on to puuloa for practice; schofield rifle range generally only open to DoD/military/retirees.

contact chinese pistol club for bullseye pistol matches(www.lava.net/~hibobg/cgc/cgc.html)

contact mid pacific pistol league for IPSC matches(www.mppl.net)

touristy ranges available in waikiki but no one but tourists go there and firearms are chained to the benches.

saturday night specials, assault pistols, NFA items are banned by state law.

LE units allowed to have automatic weapons and normal cap magazine. military allowed auto weapons/normal cap mags only on base/on duty with exceptions to Fed LE agents.

.50 bmg not banned, but are not allowed at KHSC. can shoot bmg on private land.

FFL transfer fees on oahu range from $25 to $50 or 10% of value of firearm whichever is higher.

http://www.honolulupd.org/info/gunlaw.htm

lots of hawaii shooters here if you want more poop: http://www.ar15.com/forums/forum.html?b=8&f=43

hawaii has one of the highest costs of living in the states. fed employees get a 20% cost of living adjustment(COLA) here in hawaii, if your wife works for a private business that wants to relocate her here, a $50,000/yr salary in Williamsburg does not necessarily equal a $50,000/yr salary in Honolulu. make sure your wife's employer factors this into her salary. if you're a married couple, her employer may accomodate her for a cost of living adjustment, but generally won't offer COLA for you. :) and understand that even tho she is offered a job two levels up for hawaii, make sure her salary is adjusted for cost of living at her new level.

the Jones Act which effectively restricts hawaii ports to only US flagged ships creates a duopoly of US shipping companies that increase the cost of goods coming into hawaii.

http://www.hawaiigasprices.com/

hawaii does not have a sales tax, it has a general excise tax(GET) of 4.0%(4.5 in honolulu starting jan 1). sounds kind of low, but GET is applied at all levels(retail/wholesale) so the effective tax for the end user is roughly 8-13% after it travels thru manufacturers/wholesalers/distributors/retailers.

hawaii public schools are generally average to below average depending on the neighborhood you end up in. altho you can file for exception to get your kid into a different district school under certain conditions.

oahu has several excellent private schools if you can afford it(adds to cost of living) and if you can get your kid in.

hawaii is a solid blue state in politics. state legislature is heavily Democrat. current governor is a RINO.

if you come from the mainland, don't call the locals "brah" like dog the bounty hunter.
 
i was stationed there in the mid and late 80's. Even if you registered everything, the law allways looked at you sideways, with lots of suspicion. they are deff tight over there. One more thing, on a personal note, if you move over there, sometime in the future, you will get 'disney world disease' or 'the rock' disease. Like when you go to a killer amusement park, and everything is new and cool, but now , sometime during the time you are there, you will do anything to leave, it is all you wanna do. Same thing there, but you can't do it. And it doesn't have to do with being able to fly out , either. it has to do with you know you are on this dot, and you can't just drive away. The only way anybody is getting out, no matter what is coming, you gotta fly. you start to feel like the island is shrinking, and it is closing in on you. You start getting nervous, and it only goes downhill from there.
you have to resign yourself to stay there, that you are never leaving or moving, no matter what, even if you move 10 yrs , 5 yrs, from now.
 
the law allways looked at you sideways, with lots of suspicion.
i never get this feeling. the officers at the HPD gun registration window are always friendly. last month when i was there the two of them were engrossed in a couple gun magazines. over the years i've had a couple comment on how cool some of my guns were.

even tho we have restrictive legislation compared to free states on the mainland, gun control is never a hot topic and as a gun owner i've never felt alienated by people who know i like guns. everyone is laid back here and people live and let live with aloha.

i cant really explain why we have restrictive gun laws. we are more country than city. we're generally stereotyped as laid back and lazy...that's the only explaination i have for our gun laws, our lazy legislators were too lazy to come up with original firearms laws so they just plagarized the work of the closest democratic legislators...california. and holding true to the lazy stereotype, they got tired of writing(plagarizing) and quit before they got to the part about the assault weapons ban, 1 gun a month limit on purchases, state approved handgun list, ban on receiver/frame sales, etc.
 
My parents live in Maui. Sounds impossible to get a concealed pistol license.
Hawaii also quarantines your pets for six months. My parents said the governor was trying to get that repealed so I don't know if they still do the mandatory quarantine. It's also extremely expensive to live there.
Most of the crime is drug related.
 
I have to agree with obm. Back in 1975 when I got there I didn't know (or care) about the gun laws. I'd been there several months and was out plinking at Kaena Point with a BHP, DWM Luger(1939 vintage) and my Security-Six. An HPD officer drove up and started shooting the breeze and admiring my guns. He was a decent guy. He even told me what law I had broken and encouraged me to get "legal" ASAP. The guy was a real saint.

I bought several guns(another BHP, a 700BDL in 7mm Win Mag, Rossi-Garcia 12ga Coach Gun and a Series 70 Colt 1911) while stationed there and the guys doing the registering always validated my purchases with the appropriate Ooou's & Ahhh's.

My recollection of pig hunting there was that the locals would corner them with dogs and then jump on them and finish them off with a knife. Not my cup of tea. (That was back in the day before kevlar underpants.)
 
I served three years in the People's Democratic Republic of Hawaii Minimum Security Penitentiary before being paroled back to America. I was glad to leave. After living for years in Europe, the Middle East, and Asia...I was amazed at how NOT America Hawaii was. My wife and I felt far less welcome there than any other country that we have ever lived in, bar none (including a year in Saudi).

Watching the fools at the HPD "Papers, Comrade" weapons registration window maul my original M1D and then decide that it was a .22LR...the retarded 10-round ban...the idiots running the public range...the painfully inept and incredibly racist school system...the blatently racist cops who regularly admitted targeting everyone in my chosen profession because "...unlike da locals, brah, you gots da insurance and you pays da fine...", being overcharged for everything, lifer Democrat types running the show without any worries about being replaced...ever...

It was a long three years.

I made some good friends, and still correspond with some really nice local folks that are stuck in that third-world 'hole with no chance of parole, but I won't willingly go back.





Alex
 
Wakal; dude , you are sick! You just gave me a huge flashback, it's like I just stepped back over there, and was listening to the locals talking to me! Very scary. You're right. They will pick on you, they will single you out, they will try to target you for theft, it is very rascist there , We dun like you Howly bois, braah!, and so it goes. now then , if you go over there as a civilian, it may be a bit different, but I won't guarantee that. Get a little place on the north side of the island, try to be a good and quiet neighbor, and make a couple of local friends of your neighbors, get a little 'protection' going , you know?
 
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