Hello folks, new guy here intro and .357 questions....
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Hawk
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There's a used one for 3,250.00 on Gunbroker. I'm no Korth expert but it looks somewhat overpriced - photos aren't that great and it goes back to the unshrouded ejector days.
Lots of folks prefer that but an unshrouded on a Korth just looks ... wrong .. to me.
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=126337476
Lots of folks prefer that but an unshrouded on a Korth just looks ... wrong .. to me.
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=126337476
md7
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hello martin,
S&W makes a fine revolver (IMHO) to be sure, but the Ruger GP 100 is a very nice revolver as well. my suggestion would be to pick all of the models you are thinking about up and handle them. pick the one that feels "right" to you. any of those you have mentioned will do fine.
my personal prefernce is for the GP 100.
S&W makes a fine revolver (IMHO) to be sure, but the Ruger GP 100 is a very nice revolver as well. my suggestion would be to pick all of the models you are thinking about up and handle them. pick the one that feels "right" to you. any of those you have mentioned will do fine.
my personal prefernce is for the GP 100.
Hawk
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Hermann's is showing an MR-73 for USD 1,400.00.
The trick, which I've quite totally given up on, is getting it here.
Maybe you could prevail upon Edelman's?
http://www.hermannsguns.com/Pistols/manurhin/MR73products17.html
The trick, which I've quite totally given up on, is getting it here.
Maybe you could prevail upon Edelman's?
http://www.hermannsguns.com/Pistols/manurhin/MR73products17.html
$3250.00 used is out of my league too!
I have a few guitars up there but I've been playing with those for 20+ years.
What I've learned from that experience is you don't shell out that kind of money when you're a beginner because you haven't developed the skills and techiques that dictate what you really need from an instrument.
I want a basic, high quality, meat and potatoes revolver that I can grow with for a while.
It' seems the options have really dwindled and that pistols are much more popular knowadays. The only big manufacturers Are S&W and Ruger?
I'd like to buy American so Taurus is out of the equation, and that Rossi thread with the sheared barrel is spooky.
I sure would like to try a Colt but I'm not experienced enough to effectively evaluate a used piece.
I have a few guitars up there but I've been playing with those for 20+ years.
What I've learned from that experience is you don't shell out that kind of money when you're a beginner because you haven't developed the skills and techiques that dictate what you really need from an instrument.
I want a basic, high quality, meat and potatoes revolver that I can grow with for a while.
It' seems the options have really dwindled and that pistols are much more popular knowadays. The only big manufacturers Are S&W and Ruger?
I'd like to buy American so Taurus is out of the equation, and that Rossi thread with the sheared barrel is spooky.
I sure would like to try a Colt but I'm not experienced enough to effectively evaluate a used piece.
md7
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martin,
there is a very informative note sticky'd on the top of the revolvers forum here on THR. it gives a very basic check list on how to judge a used revolver. like you, i am not the most knowlegable on revolvers and found that sticky to be very helpful.
there is a very informative note sticky'd on the top of the revolvers forum here on THR. it gives a very basic check list on how to judge a used revolver. like you, i am not the most knowlegable on revolvers and found that sticky to be very helpful.
Hawk
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Current production US double actions - pretty much S&W and Ruger as you've noted.
Oops. I forgot Charco.
ATF says 391,000 revolvers were made domestically on '07. Ruger was 96,000, S&W 196,000 and Charco 14,000.
Going through the list, it looks like everyone else was single action. Dan Wesson is listed as making 20 that year - pity they quit.
Oops. I forgot Charco.
ATF says 391,000 revolvers were made domestically on '07. Ruger was 96,000, S&W 196,000 and Charco 14,000.
Going through the list, it looks like everyone else was single action. Dan Wesson is listed as making 20 that year - pity they quit.
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Martin,
You seem to like Blue and wood better than Stainless. There is a solution to that too, it's the S&W M586 L-Comp from the S&W Performance Center. Your FFL will have to buy it through a Special Distributor but it can be bought. It's a Blue version of the M686 Plus (7 rounds) but with a 3" barrel and it's Carbon Steel.
You seem to like Blue and wood better than Stainless. There is a solution to that too, it's the S&W M586 L-Comp from the S&W Performance Center. Your FFL will have to buy it through a Special Distributor but it can be bought. It's a Blue version of the M686 Plus (7 rounds) but with a 3" barrel and it's Carbon Steel.
Thanks folks for all the great advice. I'll be sure to check the revolver sticky. The most I know about checking out a revolver is what I learned watching Tuco at the gunshop in "The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly". 
As far as aesthetics go I prefer a matte finish in stainless/nickel.......Wood I love in general and blue is classic.
I'd like to keep the price at/under $2000. I thik there should be plenty of leeway there. I'm a bit of a gadget head as well so things like moon-clips and accessory rails are attractive......
Thanks again,
Martin
As far as aesthetics go I prefer a matte finish in stainless/nickel.......Wood I love in general and blue is classic.
I'd like to keep the price at/under $2000. I thik there should be plenty of leeway there. I'm a bit of a gadget head as well so things like moon-clips and accessory rails are attractive......
Thanks again,
Martin
Hawk
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That's a fine budget - should cover anything you see on S&W's or Ruger's web site - or a couple - three anythings.
Gadget?
How about a Viridian X5L slung under a 325TR? An interesting blend of 1917 and Star Wars.
http://www.viridiangreenlaser.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=21&products_id=48
(I hate web sites with unsolicited videos - kill the speakers if you're in a nursery).
Gadget?
How about a Viridian X5L slung under a 325TR? An interesting blend of 1917 and Star Wars.
http://www.viridiangreenlaser.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=21&products_id=48
(I hate web sites with unsolicited videos - kill the speakers if you're in a nursery).
mljdeckard
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I agree that you are looking at this in a good way, and your choices make sense. I also wish Colt still made the Python.
If it were ME, I would remember that if this is a defensive gun for indoor use, a .357 is about the loudest possible choice. Tinitis is better than death, but I'm also a guitar player, and I might find myself wondering after the fact if there was a way to do the job with less hearing damage. If you're a revolver guy, that's fine, I would get out and shoot as many of the popular brands as possible, but I would also try some of the obvious auto choices. You might find you like them too. If this is strictly a home gun, I would get the heaviest and longest practical option. (full-size auto, 6-8 inch barrel revolver.) Heavier guns have less felt recoil, and longer guns are easier to fire accurately.
If it were ME, I would remember that if this is a defensive gun for indoor use, a .357 is about the loudest possible choice. Tinitis is better than death, but I'm also a guitar player, and I might find myself wondering after the fact if there was a way to do the job with less hearing damage. If you're a revolver guy, that's fine, I would get out and shoot as many of the popular brands as possible, but I would also try some of the obvious auto choices. You might find you like them too. If this is strictly a home gun, I would get the heaviest and longest practical option. (full-size auto, 6-8 inch barrel revolver.) Heavier guns have less felt recoil, and longer guns are easier to fire accurately.
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with your 'cap' being around $500, I would suggest that you shop around for a used Ruger Security Six or used Ruger GP100; Rugers are built like tanks, very reliable, and offer good quality for the money;
their out-of-box trigger can be a slight bit more gritty than on a Smith & Wesson, but they use coil springs and you can get a Wolff spring kit that will smooth up the trigger if desired;
both of my .357 revolvers are Ruger...one is a 1978 vintage blued Ruger Security Six w/ 4" barrel (bought used for $230 @ 18 months ago) and a 2008 vintage blued Ruger GP100 w/ 6" barrel bought new for $529, but if I shopped arounde more I could have had one for @ $479; the only change I have made is replacing the skinny wood grips on the Security Six with a rubber Pachmayr Gripper...much better control and comfort
their out-of-box trigger can be a slight bit more gritty than on a Smith & Wesson, but they use coil springs and you can get a Wolff spring kit that will smooth up the trigger if desired;
both of my .357 revolvers are Ruger...one is a 1978 vintage blued Ruger Security Six w/ 4" barrel (bought used for $230 @ 18 months ago) and a 2008 vintage blued Ruger GP100 w/ 6" barrel bought new for $529, but if I shopped arounde more I could have had one for @ $479; the only change I have made is replacing the skinny wood grips on the Security Six with a rubber Pachmayr Gripper...much better control and comfort
AKElroy
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I own a 340, 19 and a 686; I definately would go with a heavier 4" like the 686. Mine is my best shooter; great trigger, accurate, soft shooting even with heavy 158gr loads. As for OP, I would stick with lighter loads (bullet weight, not charge weight) in an apartment. I would not feel as well protected going with .38's, but I would probably stick w/ 125 gr .357's. They should fragment fine & OP less than the heavy stuff, and they are proven stoppers.
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