HELP Anyone have a Dillon 550 or 650 etc loader HANDY ?

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Need dimensions of the tool head locator pins. Need diameter and length of the pin, not including the knurled head. Found some of those pesky little threaded inserts to bolt down the toolhead. In bulk. Cannot get to my press for 2 weeks. Got locked out while my buds are fishing in Key West.
 
.123 dia. .989 long with the last .125 tapered to a point
+ - .001 [my caliper isn't the highest quality]
 
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Sweet. thanks. How tight is the pin in the hole of the press itself ? Do you have a drill bit set handy to see what will go in the hole ? Really wish I had my press handy to do this myself.
 
no problem
the pin is not a tight fit at all, a 1/8 drill fits with just slightly less play but goes in freely.a # 30 bit is the best fit in the hole, no play at all. i would say the hole is about .1285.
 
Great. Means a #5 screw will pass through the hole with a little to spare. Thanks. I can get my stuff ordered tomorrow morning.
 
Riss
Why is it you want to bolt down the toolhead?
That little bit of slop helps align everything as the shaft moves up and down.
Just curious.
 
Trying to squeeze a little more accuracy out of the Dillon. Duplicating what Uniquetek does with their tool head bolt down kit. And I figure if there is zero slop in my RockChucker or any other quality press then there should not be any in the Dillon. Will see how it goes. I found the stuff to do it myself, but needed the measurements since I cannot get to my press this week. All it does is put inserts into the tool head, it does nothing to the press itself.
 
Riss, it's a solution to a problem that doesn't exist. As Dave said it doesn't hurt a thing. After uniquetek came out with their "system" I did a little test on my 650. To see just how much the toolhead moves, AND if it does it consistently.

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The tool head is at rest on zero on the dial indicator. Of course, I had to remove the powder check head from the powder die to make room for the indicator.

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Here it is deflected .013 while under pressure of loading 45 acp shells, all stations working. Point is it deflects the same amount each and every time, with boring regularity. Consistency is what we're after.

How do you know when you lock it down, that you're NOT locking it off angle, instead of tight up against the top of the slot? Without a dial indicator like mine, you won't know!

And I figure if there is zero slop in my RockChucker or any other quality press then there should not be any in the Dillon.

That's funny right there! Grab the ram of a RC or any other single stage press at the top of it's ram travel, pull sideways. You WILL see some slop of the ram in it's bore. No steel bar in a hole can be zero slop without some very precise fitting being done. That costs big bucks, more than we would pay for a reloading press. Again, some movement means it can align with the die better.
 
The forster press intentionally introduces "slop" in order to self center the brass in the dies.
 
The co-ax floats one die to align with one cartridge. The Dillon tool head floats 4 or 5 dies, locked together, to align with 4 or 5 cartridges. The first case to meet resistance (usually in the sizing die) will lift its side of the tool head, tilting it.

Whidden sells a modified Dillon 550 or 650 tool head with pinned, floating lock rings in the seating and sizing stations. Probably not that hard to do yourself.

Andy
 
The co-ax floats one die to align with one cartridge. The Dillon tool head floats 4 or 5 dies, locked together, to align with 4 or 5 cartridges. The first case to meet resistance (usually in the sizing die) will lift its side of the tool head, tilting it.

Uh huh, a whole .013! Over the width of the toolhead, that's such a small angle it doesn't matter. Like I said, a solution to a problem that doesn't exist.
 
Locking the tool head is all good and fine. Now, how do you lock the rim of the case into the shell holder?? The cases wobble like crazy in any press. Lets them align. I think its Lee that puts O-rings between their lock nuts and the press head so dies CAN move and self align.

dude...you're chasing ghosts...
 
Uh huh, a whole .013! Over the width of the toolhead, that's such a small angle it doesn't matter.

The dillon tool heads are about the same width as many rifle cartridges are long. 13 thou over the length of a cartridge? I guess if it still goes bang, then maybe "that's such a small angle it doesn't matter".

Andy
 
The co-ax floats one die to align with one cartridge. The Dillon tool head floats 4 or 5 dies, locked together, to align with 4 or 5 cartridges. The first case to meet resistance (usually in the sizing die) will lift its side of the tool head, tilting it.

This is why I always size a case when I'm setting up the seating die. Not sure if it matters but makes me feel better.
 
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