Old Fuff wrote in post number 48:
As you get older you’ll hopefully learn that what goes on in the real world doesn’t always match up to what you read in magazines or on the Internet.
I had mentors such as Old Fuff speaks of.
These actually preferred the 32ACP over the .380.
Re: Tomcat.
Early versions had some teething problems, which have been taken care of by the fine folks at Beretta.
These guns conceal very very well, and for most folks point extremely well.
I base this on the fact, that me and mine had students try a variety of guns, both revolvers, and semi autos, from .22 lr, on up, including Glocks, Sigs, HKs, Rugers, Berettas, ...to you name it.
Anywhere from 25 to 100 handguns, and the students actually picked them up, were allowed to see how they came apart, went back together, and shot them.
Add, holsters, doing the best we could with what we had, plus other folks letting folks try holsters.
5 yds, 5 shots, shoot the guns and the paper does not lie, as to what a student shoots best, in regard to platform, manual of arms, caliber, and ammo type.
Beretta Tomcat always did very well with this drill.
This drill was used by student to find what gun worked for them, to hell with anyone else, what they said, or anyone else said.
New students of course, same drill works for those that have had injury, sickness, surgery or other physical limits.
Age takes its toll and where one might have run a gun and load, Neuropathy of hands or arthritis can and does require investigate and verify what works for them. Add, Doctor's orders in regard to no recoil.
Yeah I know, Reality sure puts a damper on being a armchair ranger, or those gurus-n-groupies.
This how I was raised, and how I still prefer and suggest this "what gun for____?" and all , over teh Intrawebz hype.
Those assisting included those in Military, LEO, ladies that had served in IDF and some other interesting folks.
Teh Intrawez will tell one they have to rack a slide as anyone can do so using their method, and everyone that does not top off a mag is an idiot.
Some of these Intrawebz folks are actually instructing other folks, and have all of 5 years or less experience in all this stuff.
Groupies need a Guru, and Gurus needs groupies in the circle jerk of egos and making money - your money - to widen the circle jerk.
Do what you want, as none of these folks are going to be at your gunfight in all reality.
Now pay attention all of you so into safety, and allow me to add kids to this.
-You are required by your jurisdiction to unload and make safe a gun in a setting.
Maybe having to enter a police station, or something similar, and guns are unloaded and checked into a lock box.
-Maybe in traveling, you are about to enter a non-gun friendly setting, again, requiring one to drop mag, clear chamber, and separate mag from gun.
Once out of this area, you may load up and make the gun ready to use, as you are legal to do so.
i. Tip up guns such as this Tomcat, and Revolvers allow one to do much easier, and safer.
-Every round is accounted for, which is a safe thing for both checking guns in and out, and you.
-In a vehicle, once over the state line, or whatever line of demarc is, one can much easier, and safely load a gun in a moving vehicle.
Many of you do not like Israeli draw, still one advantage is, the cleared gun does have a mag, and it cannot go off by accident, or negligence, and therefore sending a bullet into one of your kids in that mini-van going down the road...whatever.
I sorta doubt many walk around with a "safe bucket" to point a gun into to rack slide and get a round chambered...I don't.
So if safety is as so say, then "Maybe" Israeli draw, or a Tip Up / Tomcat, or Revolver is not such a damn fool idea after all.
The Reality is, folks have been doing this before Intrawebz groupies were a itch in their daddy's britches.
Your choice as to whom you listen to...
Can you have your wife, or husband, or anyone, put a gun in your pocket, or purse, and make that gun safe without anyone knowing you did, and did so safely?
Mentors had a neat lesson, one they actually used in places where the "Police" shot folks for whatever reason, such as checkpoints, or two many gathered in a setting...
No Tomcat's back then, still other tip up Beretta's and of course revolvers...
I would just have someone place a gun in my coat pocket, like in getting a hug, and then as I walked, with one hand in pocket, load up and make that Beretta or revolver ready to use.
There were not some guns back then, we have today.
I have had to be in settings, where it was a Federal Offense to have a gun, and leave for lunch, and some lady gave me a gun once out of the building and legal for me again ( like a hug) and we walk to lunch, or something, and then I pass the gun back before I re-enter that building again.
Original Post: this Dad sounds pretty smart, and some Doctors, do know some of those that have real life experiences, such as Old Fuff shared about, and others such as OSS.
*think*
