Help. I sent my AK to lancaster arms for repair. never got it back.

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What makes it really difficult for you is the fact that you're in Kansas and Lancaster is in Arizona. As a practical matter, "lawyering up" as it's been referred to, really isn't a practical thing. I'm not familiar with the laws of either state involved, but absent some statute to the contrary, you usually can't include attorney's fees as a part of your damages unless they have been agreed to by contract. Meaning that winning could (and likely will) cost you more than the rifle did. I know that I probably wouldn't touch a case like this just because I wouldn't be able to charge enough to make it worth my while.

If you bought the rifle within the time period for either state to bring a redhibitory action, you could file an action in some sort of small claims court, but that's going to leave you either having to go to Arizona to file the claim and make an appearance or two or filing in Kansas and trying to get Lancaster to respond. In the latter case, you could get a default judgment if they don't respond, but all that's going to get you is a judgment that won't be worth the paper it's printed on. Not to you, anyway.

That article that dprice found is interesting. It describes certain behavior as being unlawful, but nothing in the statutes lead me to believe that this unlawful behavior is considered to be criminal. The statutes referred to in the complaint do empower the attorney general's office to take action, and gives the power to the court to award penalties of up to $10k per offense. Oddly enough, it seems that those penalties are to be paid to the state, not the consumers.

In my limited experience with this sort of thing, I've found that courts are usually hesitant to issue judgments ordering specific performance. Although court are more than happy to render judgments awarding money damages or injunctions, orders for specific performance are not common. In other words, I doubt that a court would issue an order to Lancaster stating that they must repair hobgob's rifle. As well intentioned as the consumer protection act may be, it may also be another case of an overly zealous legislator getting laws passed that the court system can't enforce.

In any case, the foregoing was mostly for discussion purposes.

Personally, if I was you, I'd see this as a theft. You sent them your rifle and now they won't give it back. That's a theft (by fraud). I would have called the cops and reported the rifle stolen, if for no other reason than to see if you could get any action. You tell someone that you're going to sue them, it might get their attention and it might not. If a cop shows up at the door with an arrest warrant, you WILL have their attention. Many district attorney's office these days have economic crime units. You may get lucky and get a police officer that cares and is willing to do the paper work.

I'd also get in touch with the Arizona Attorney General's Office and get on their list. It certainly couldn't hurt. Do what you can and then put it behind you. This kind of crap happens. I've bought plenty of stuff that wasn't worth the box it was shipped in. As they say, buyer beware.
 
Several years ago wife and I had a little cottage industry business where we sold on the Internet and learned a valuable lesson. When they don’t pay up or a check bounces, forget about dealing with them yourself after a couple notifications without results.

Get all ones ducks in a row as to proof positive there is a claim, then turn it over to a collection agency located near the defaulter, they will only charge one a small percentage of the cost of the claim. Collection agencies make their profits from the quarry they pursue once they take action and especially so if legal action is required. Their charges rapidly mount up well beyond initial cost of the claim, they are absolute junk yard dogs who make life hell for those the claim is against and are relentless.

That has been my experience with collection agencies in the three times we used them.
 
if you willingly give somebody an item and they don't return it, it's generally a civil matter, not a criminal one (not theft).

As TonyAngel wrote, this is not always (usually) correct. Try borrowing someone's car and refusing to return it (it won't get resolved in civil court, I assure you).
 
Lancaster Arms is on borrowed time

Hobgob, if you're referring to the current fraud lawsuit against Lancaster, you’re incorrect that it “didn't stick”. It is still very much an ongoing matter. You can follow the proceedings by going to the Maricopa County Superior Court website and looking it up. Just click on “Find a Case”, and enter “Durda” in the name field. If you do so, you’ll see that Chet Durda has been sued a lot. At present, he has two active lawsuits against him. The AG’s fraud lawsuit, and a lawsuit from a party named Estrella Associates, LLC.

Currently, the fraud lawsuit is not going well for Chet Durda and Lancaster. A couple weeks ago, the AG had to file a Motion to Compel Compliance with Discovery Rules. Usually, this means the Defendant (Chet Durda) is not cooperating, and is withholding information sought by the AG. If this continues, the judge can decide that he’s tired of playing games with the Defendant, and that judge can put out a bench warrant for Durda’s arrest. The way things are going, I would not be even a little surprised if this happens.

Chet Durda is a con man, and has been for many years. Many people in the AK/gun industry, like Deryck as AZEX, and Mark at Arizona Response Systems, have publicly said that they've worked with Chet Durda, and that the guy is a known con man. Deryck and his staff used to call Chet "Big Money Hustla" because Chet was always so full of sh*t. Mark publicly called Chet a "sociopath", and said that while doing some work for Chet, Mark used to listen to Chet sit on the phone all day and lie his ass off.

In addition, Chet Durda has owned a number of businesses that have either been sued out of existence, or just up and disappeared. He used to own a business called Renu International. As those court records above show, Renu got a judgment against it for almost $1,000,000. You can be certain Chet Durda never made good on that judgment.

I hate to break it to you, but you will likely never see your rifle again. I have a feeling the Arizona AG is going to nail Chet Durda’s nuts to the wall, and possibly soon. You should do two things Hobgob, and you should do both immediately:

1. Contact the AG’s office, ask to speak with an attorney or paralegal working on the Lancaster Arms lawsuit, and tell them that Chet Durda has been sitting on your rifle since September. It is important that you do so, because Durda has been lying to the AG with regard to the people to whom he still owes rifles, parts kits and money.

2. Call Lancaster one more time, and tell Durda that if you don't have a repaired rifle in your hands in five business days, a theft report will be filed with the Police Department in Surprise, Arizona. Then, you actually need to file the report when you don’t get your rifle, as hollow threats are meaningless threats. (Durda recently moved from Goodyear to Surprise. The Goodyear PD is VERY familiar with Durda…they launched a criminal investigation against him last year. THAT is the case that was dropped. Although technically speaking, it wasn’t dropped. They just decided not to pursue criminal charges at that time, and they referred the case to the AG instead for civil charges. )

If you aren’t willing to do one or both of those things, then just resign yourself to the fact that you allowed a con man to walk away with your money. One of the reasons Durda has been able to defraud so many people is that – surprisingly – many gun owners are easily duped. As a professional con man, Durda knows this. In fact, he counts on it. He also knows and counts on the notion that once these gun owners discover they have been ripped-off, most of them won’t do anything about it. Unfortunately, he's correct.

Go get your gun back, Hobgob. Or at least, don’t let it disappear without a fight. Chet Durda thinks that gun owners are pushovers and easy marks. Prove him wrong.
 
Call them and tell them if they do not give you your property in working order you will file a small claims suit agints them in local court and they can come to your neighborhood to defend the case in court. Sue them for damages. Tell the judge the truth and let him decide. Do not ever allow a company or anyone to get away with this BS. Sue the hell out of them. I feel unamerican because I have never sued anyone yet.
 
I understand what you're saying Magog, but small claims court will have no effect on Chet Durda. Remember, this is a guy who was sued for almost $1,000,000, and he appears to have blown that off.

Durda would ignore any small claims court just like he has ignored the 66 Better Business Bureau claims and the other lawsuits against him. Yeah, Hobgog would easily get a default judgement in small claims court, but if you can't collect on it...you're just spinning your wheels.

With Durda, you have to get law enforcement involved. That means the AG and local police. Durda is a guy who just Does. Not. Care. I've seen some shady people in the gun industry before, but Chet Durda tops them all. He isn't going to stop with his unethical business dealings until he is forced to. Many people are hoping that this fraud lawsuit is the thing that finally takes him out of the firearms business.
 
A couple of years ago I almost bought a AK from him, I'm so gland I didn't.

Thanks for the warnings and I hope you get some satisfaction in getting your rifle back or in his jail sentence.
 
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