Help me choose a .22lr rifle. Crickett?

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No considerations for a Henry?
The Henry Micro-Bolt is a very nice rifle as well. Not quite as nice as the old Savage Cub, but far above the Crickett.

It is funny to me to read about contortions required to shoot these little guns. I'm about 6'2" and well over 200 lbs, and (with a scope, not the irons as I said) I have no problem what so ever shooting the Cub.
 
My nephew got a cricket for his 7th birthday and it has served him well for 3 years now. It is very accurate for him, but it is entirely too small for me. I can't line my eyes up with the sights if i shoulder it, but I never tried it with a scope.

I have held it like a pistol and shot it before, but it is extremely awkward to do.
 
Well, you're right. A Henry lever would likely cost you a lot more than your original budget.

Oh, the cost to buy the rifle itself wouldn't be a LOT more. Certainly it should be tolerable unless you're on a pretty tight budget. But the way they seem to drain a box of ammo really ups the daily cost.... :D

Seriously though, if they have the Henry in stock check it out and give it a little thought on the short term vs long term cost breakdown. The lever rifle might cost more up front but you're buying a LOT of long term smiles with those extra dollars.

Of the single shot, pump, lever and semi auto rifles I've taken along to the Jr .22 nights the lever is hands down the most popular gun amongst the kids. I think the pump would have rated nearly as high but the really small kids can't reach far enough forward easily enough to reach the pump handle. This is from a prone position on a bench. At times we've seen the Henry "reserved" by the kids 2 or 3 turns in advance. And for a group that can't seem to remain focused for more than a couple of minutes when in that sort of crowded scenario I suspect this says lots about how much they like the lever rifle.

Speaking of the smaller bolt rifles I forgot to write that the club bought two of the Savage Rascals with the wood stocks for the smaller kids.

I haven't shot them myself yet but I've shouldered them to check for fit and while a little crowded I was still fine despite my 6' 1" frame. My head had to be cocked to the side a little more than I'd normally like to line up the stock rear peep sight but I was far from uncomfortable.
 
If your LGS has a 597 and it is priced right, I would jump on it. Don't get hung up in 10/22 vs 597 talk, because I own both and I have not had any issue from either one. If I had to do it over again, I would have saved the money I spent on my 10/22 and boght something else. I have had zero issues with my 597 and those who have seem to be variable. For an inexpensive .22LR (Cabelas: &$169.00), that is a pretty decent shooter, the 597 is not a bad gun. Everyone has an opinion and that is my 2 pennies.

JD
 
For your price range a Savage Mark II, Marlin 60, or 10/22 would fit the bill nicely. I have a pre-accutrigger Mark II with synthetic stock and sporter barrel, it is extremely accurate and is light and handles well. I would definitely not get a kid-sized rifle for yourself, it is much easier to shoot a rifle that fits you.
 
Going against some of the advice here, I have been thinking about picking up one of the new polymer stocked Savage Rascal's. I found one in a LGS and was able to play with it. It is amazingly light, has excellent peep sights, and is surprisingly well built. I am looking forward to the day of buying one for my kids.

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If you can live with it being a single shot then I would go for it. If you want small and multiple rounds/magazine fed then I would go for the CZ Cub. It comes with a block for the magazine well to limit it to 1 round. You can just take that out and pop in a mag and have multiple rounds on hand.
 
OP, if a lever action is what you really want, save up for it. Anything else will seem like a compromise and will be gathering dust in your gun cabinet a year from now. If you decide to buy a new gun, CZ and Marlin both have great bolt action .22s that have a lot of fans.

If you really are ok with a bolt action, shop around for a used one - like others have said, there are plenty of good, old bolt action .22s that can be had in your price range. I just picked up a Remington 34 NRA for $250. It even came with peep sights.

If you decide to go semi-auto, don't limit yourself to a 10/22. Look at and handle other models as well. There are other semi-autos that are just as good as (if not better than) the 10/22, especially new production 10/22s. You could look at Marlin's Model 60 or 795 for instance.
 
If your LGS has a 597 and it is priced right, I would jump on it. Don't get hung up in 10/22 vs 597 talk, because I own both and I have not had any issue from either one. If I had to do it over again, I would have saved the money I spent on my 10/22 and boght something else. I have had zero issues with my 597 and those who have seem to be variable. For an inexpensive .22LR (Cabelas: &$169.00), that is a pretty decent shooter, the 597 is not a bad gun. Everyone has an opinion and that is my 2 pennies.

JD
It's not the 10/22 vs 597 talk that put me off the 597, it was the design of the receiver.
The receiver is aluminum, and it's very thin.
I saw how the barrel is attached to the receiver and knew that I would always be worried about it.
There are photos all over the internet of the unbelievably thin 'ears' that hold the barrel with cracks in them. Some are from tightening the barrel wedge down too tight, others where the ears cracked all on their own and the first the owner knew about it was that accuracy dropped off.
Tightening the barrel wedge too much seems to be way too easy, you can crack the ears with application of too much hand pressure.
I asked over on a rimfire forum about it, and the 597 folks responded by telling me that a new receiver is only $50 + FFL transfer so it's no big deal!
Apparently, the area at the top of the receiver where scope mounting holes are is really thin, and the threads strip very easily.
That, coupled with the reliability problems put me right off the rifle.

I'm not trying to make you feel bad for owning one, I'm sure they are just fine if you're careful with them and don't touch that barrel wedge screw, but I don't want a rifle that I have to be careful with.


I ended up getting a Savage model 64.
I looked at a Marlin model 60 too, and I had a real hard time choosing.
What it came down to was the following:

The Savage has a box magazine. I know a Marlin 795 has a box magazine too, but the store didn't have one.
The Marlin magazine looked a little flimsy in the area where the inner tube latches into the outer tube. I could see myself denting or bending the magazine.
Also, since I will be using this to teach my son and daughter, I'd worry about them covering their hand with the muzzle during loading/unloading.

The Savage has a steel receiver. The Marlin receiver looks plenty strong enough, but I'll take steel over alloy if I have the chance. I expect this rifle will outlive me.

The Savage has steel everything else, too. No plastic (apart from the stock) whatsoever as far as I can tell, though I haven't dismantled it yet.

The Marlin felt muzzle-heavy compared to the Savage, presumably because of the tube magazine. The Savage felt better balanced and more natural to shoulder.
This would have been even more apparent with the magazine loaded.

Despite feeling better balanced and handier, the barrel on the Savage was 2" longer than the one on the Marlin. Bigger sight radius, lower noise.

The Marlin was $20 cheaper, which I spent on ammo.
For those watching ammo prices, I paid a rate of $5/50 rounds of Winchester Wildcat. The gun store guy was apologetic.

The Marlin also came with a crappy scope, but I wasn't actually aware of this until I got it home and opened the box. Probably wouldn't have affected my decision if I had known about it.


I am most definitely not knocking the Marlin model 60, it really is a nice gun.
The rifles are so similar that I really had to nitpick in order to decide which one to buy.
I had such a hard time deciding that I very nearly flipped a coin :D

Thanks for your help everyone, as I said, I know very little about .22 rifles so all comments I received were helpful.
I can't believe I have waited so long to get a .22 rifle, and I can't wait to go and shoot it :D
 
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I got a basspro flyer in the mail today, they have a Savage 64btv 22 LR for 229.99 special price from 499.99.not a bad price,,
 
jamesbeat, you will never worry about making me mad. I am completely satisfied with my 597 and I love my 10/22. As for being careful with my rifle, I treat it the same way I treat all the rest of my weapons. I believe everyone has to make their own decision and the internet is very misleading when it comes to reliability. I can only attest to my own personal experiences. My 10yr old son has carried this rifle for the past 18months in the woods and I have not had any issues of cracks or such. Good luck with your new gun.

JD
 
Another vote for Marlin XT22, there is a youth version, and. Remington 514 is the same thing and cheaper usually.
 
I hate to be "that guy" to revive a 2 month old thread, but I have to put in my .02, if going semiauto, don't be afraid of the 597, if you follow the proper steps when working on it, namely don't over tighten the barrel clamp, loosen the rail screws, and don't over torque the action screws, the 597 out of the box will easily out shoot a box-stock 10/22. I've owned both, and did $250 in machine work to the 10/22, and a little trigger customizing on a box-stock 597 got it to punch paper just as well at 100 yards after proper barrel break-in. For a bit more "cool" factor, look for a 16" heavy barrel version, that's what is next on my list.
 
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