Help me decide which AR to create credit debt with

[RP88]

I'm just about in the clear to make my last big gun purchase. Too bad I couldnt have done it earlier. Nevermind potential bans if I can't freaking find anything to buy, like it's been looking...

two makers: Stag and CMMG

for Stag, I'm thinking a plain M4 model from them. No rails, bells, and whistles.

For CMMG, I'm looking at their mid-length models (both the 14.5" and 16")

I already have a midlength from del-ton, but I don't mind having two midlengths around either - on del-ton and one from someone else.

I would say that price is no object, but i'm really not wanting to go upwards of 15-1600 bucks after buying a few extras, so I'm not really looking into Colt, LMT, or Nov (doesnt matter because finding them are nearly impossible).

all input appreciated. any other tips or advice is welcome too.

 

[gvnwst]

Stag makes really good guns. (which you allready knew, i assume)
I am not a fan of spending $200 just to chop off 1.5" barrel length, or even having a 14.5" AR. 16" or something shorter than 12" for me.

My $.000002

 

[Timradcliffe345]

None of the above - instead go with S&W for a mid-line AR. S&W offers a superior product at a very reasonable price.

 

[Vermont]

I hope your job is very secure if you are planning to go into debt with the economy like it is.

Maybe I read your title wrong.

 

[proven]

there's a colt 6920 on gunbroker for $1300. worth the extra $ IMHO.

 

[Browning]

If it's going on a card and you're gonna pay it off a bit at a time anyway might as well the the best and buy either a Les Baer or a Wilson Combat.

Wilson Combat Site

Les Baer Site

 

[Frog48]

None of the above. I'd go with a S&W M&P-15. I've been kicking around the idea of getting one, to complement my Bushmaster.

I consider the M&P-15 to be the most "bang for the buck" right now.

 

[mp510]

A2 or A4 rifle

 

[mr.scott]

Rock River Arms Tactical Entry can be had for $900-$1000. and that's with the match trigger.

 

[RP88]

well, the debt thing was a cynical remark by myself. Honestly, what I'm really waying is "I almost paid off my credit card back down to $0.00, and want one last gun, and want it to be a GOOD one ". And as for job security, I'm perfectly fine, because my job(s) sucks. Plus I have a good amount of money saved up should things go awry.

and I was thinking SW for a sec, too. I can find assembled lowers by them (or could) locally. The one thing that caught my eye was the difference between CMMG and SW is how 'the chart' makes them excellent in two different areas; the CMMG is near-milspec in all areas other than bolt/FCG testing, while the SW has all milspec tests and assurances done but with a few less milspec things to the body of the gun. The lifetime warranty is also real nice, too.

also, if it helps: the two roles intended are plinking/range shooting and defending the castle walls.

 

[Bartkowski]

You said you didn't want to look in to Colt, LMT, Noveske, but if you did you might find an LMT for around $1000, Or a Colt 6920 for $1200. A week or two ago dansammo.com had 6920's for $1200, then they went to $1250, now they are gone.

Out of the choices in the poll that were specific guns, I would go with either of the CMMG's. Smith and Wesson's are good, but I like the options CMMG offers for about the same price.

 

[SoCalShooter]

You could look at the white oak armament SDMR rifle upper.

 

[rbernie]

I am very partial to the CMMG middie lightweights. I have several, and I reach for them more often than my other ARs.

 

[LTB15J]

hell, if your intentionally gonna put yourself in debt, screw cmmg and stag. first, go with a larue lower, vltor MUR or LMT MRP upper.

then buy yourself a gesseile 2 stage trigger and use only HK mags. buy yourself all the crap you really dont need (5 point sling, anti rotational pins, extended bolt catch, ambi safety, and of course the tactical charging handle) then buy yourself a decent, US optics scope in the 1200 dollar range, a larue one piece mount, and a harris bipod. follow it off with a LMT sopmod stock, a decent pistol grip, a surefure m3 millennium for light, good suppressor, and a larue vfg for support.


that should put you into debt quite nicely.

 

[Tyris]

Do not buy a COLT or any other lower marked "LEO ONLY". At some point in the near future this will bite you in the rear.

Colt's stupidity in needlessly marking the lower astounds me.

-T

 

[UnTainted]

Dude!!!

 

[UnTainted]

AR-10.

'Nuf said.

Seriously, if you're going to do it with a credit card, get the slammer.

 

[Auburn1992]

I would probably just go for a standard Bushmaster a3 w/ a 20 in bbl. Just my personal preference though.

 

[Shade00]

Just get a Colt and be done with it.

 

[KW]

CMMG makes a good gun. If you want, buy one with no bcg and drop in an LMT or BCM bcg. That'll check almost all the boxes on the chart for a fairly low price.

 

[LTB15J]

all those 'boxes on the chart' dont equate to a quality rifle. plus 'the chart' isnt even accurate

 

[RP88]

if anyone knows where to even find Colt/LMT/Nov rifles in stock, then let me know so I can check the price out and see. and considering that alot of milspec stuff - at least the important ones - are found on your high-quality rifles, I'd wager to say that it does matter.

 

[ugaarguy]

if anyone knows where to even find Colt/LMT/Nov rifles in stock, then let me know so I can check the price out and see. and considering that alot of milspec stuff - at least the important ones - are found on your high-quality rifles, I'd wager to say that it does matter.

I own both a LMT and a Charles Daly DM4LE. After inspecting several Daly AR-15s at work and seeing consistent quality, I bought the more available DM4LE and added a LMT BCG, rather than wait and hope for another LMT. The Daly's factory BCG is being kept as a spare. Although they only Batch HPT their barrels, Daly and CMMG are the only companies outside of Colt / Noveske / LMT / BCM to do individual MPI on their barrels. If you can't get a Noveske / Colt / LMT then a Daly DM4LE with either an LMT or BCM brand BCG is the next best thing in a factory built rifle with only one drop in part swap.

 

[nzo012]

I would consider Yankee Hill Machine's rifles, they have made most of the parts that everyone uses to build theirs and they are priced alright.

http://www.yhm.net/

 

[Tarvis]

If you are planning on getting an A2 upper, I say go midlength. Otherwise, I say CMMG M4gery. Or, what mp510 said, get a rifle length with either a flat top or an A2 upper.