Help me with my gun ADD...

[csbassplayer2003]

As with most people, I have limited funds. I'd love to get a million guns, but alas I cannot. My current HD pistol is an earlier Sig P220. Its a little worn, but functions fine, and has never given me any issues. My accuracy with it is quite good. My problem is twofold. 1. Id love to get something new, but cannot, therefore I'm stuck with what I have, or I have to trade what I have towards something else if I want to get something else. 2. I like Sigs, I shoot them well, but for a wide profile .45, I'm not sure I can justify it being only single stack (came with 7 round mags, and I bought a factory 10 rounder). I'm a huge fan of the 226, but for a .45 Id almost rather have a 1911 (slimmer profile, 1 extra round per mag) or something same profile but double stacked (FNP-45, which is 14 rounds, or Glock 21 which is 13 rounds). I went to my local gun store, and handled the FNP as well as a couple entry level 1911s (500-600) range. I like them all. My friend has a Springfield operator that I've shot before, and the groups from it and the Sig are the exact same. The 2 1911s I handled were a Taurus PT 1911 (which I've read is good for the price) and the Para 1911 GI expert with the fiber optic sights. I had never handeled any of Para's guns, but I was surprised. I LOVE the sights on the Para. I've also always liked the profile and fit and finish on the FNP series of guns, though I'd change the grips, plus 14 rounds of .45 is quite nice. I'm not a huge glock fan, but I was also told to consider the Glock 21 (only glock I've shot is my friend's new Glock 20 in 10mm). Input much appreciated!

 

[savit260]

I'm stuck with what I have

I think a lot of people would be quite happy to be "stuck" with an older Sig P220!

I'd seriously reconsider trading or selling that for anything you have listed.

 

[doc2rn]

Put the FNP on lay-away and pay it off over time. They are shooters and it is one of my go to guns. You can change the backstrap on it to adjust the grip angle also.

 

[357 Terms]

keep the Sig! you will regret it otherwise.

 

[Zzyzxx]

Keep the Sig!
If you need something slightly smaller for Concealed Carry, consider the Sig P239 in .40. It's a solid shooter.
Eventually for myself, I am looking a a 1911 w a 4" or 4.5" bbl. Haven't had one in years, but just want a 1911 to have it. Wish I could afford an Ed Brown, but I am saving up for a new 45-70 first.

 

[csbassplayer2003]

I just got off the phone with one of my gun buddies, and he came up with some interesting points. To preface this, he is a Glock guy, borderline fanboy, but not quite. He never understood why I went with a Sig to begin with. He asked me a couple of questions that I couldn't answer at all. What am I getting for my money features wise that justifies a Sig over any other firearm? I started to go with "accuracy, reliability" and he cut me off. His point was that ALL guns are going to be accurate or reliable to a similar degree, otherwise the makers would get bad PR and go out of business, so that couldnt be used as a stand out. He wanted to know what about the Sig platform set it apart from every other gun? With his Glock he listed off a number of things, had nothing. I shoot well with it, but I also shoot well with most things I've touched. The only thing that left me with was the more subjective things, which while valuable to a certain extent, I couldn't justify over a lot of other platforms EITHER. Help! I like Sigs, but in every conversation, I honestly can't say that I feel that they are special in some way vs a Glock, 1911, etc... yet they are more expensive. They almost have me convinced I made a mistake. BTW, CCW isn't an option because I live in a communist state, and I'm not a fan of .40. My friend did concede that some of their compacts are nice, but a full sized non 1911 pistol being only single stack didn't make any sense to him, or to me for that matter.

 

[savit260]

His point was that ALL guns are going to be accurate or reliable to a similar degree

In that case go get a a High Point or the cheapest double stack 45 you can find.

I'm sure someone else will be quite pleased to have your used P220.

 

[NMGonzo]

This is what I do.

I am not stuck with what I have because I have a buddy who I trade guns all the time.

The 1911 on my belt now has been used as a trading chip 4 times.

 

[csbassplayer2003]

The downside is every time I trade, I take a money hit. The idea is to find something I'll stick with (possibly a futile endeavor). I'd love to shoot everything in the gun display cases, but obviously that wont happen. I just want to find "the" gun.

 

[jbr]

Sorry but it just sounds like what you need is more guns not "the" gun. Confusius say "When you have several - you will find your favorite"

 

[csbassplayer2003]

We all need more guns. The problem is the lack of funding =(

 

[Smoovbiscuit]

I wouldn't sell it unless someone offers you a good deal on it, which gun stores probably won't.

 

[csbassplayer2003]

Thats the other thing that worries me. I know I'm going to take a money hit, but how much is the big question.

 

[Jim PHL]

What do you have in the 220? Maybe you can get what, or close to what you paid for it?
I don't think your friend was trying to say ALL guns are relatively equal in reliability and accuracy (ie: Sig vs. Hi Point). More like most of the major brands are relatively equal. That point is often made when people try to compare similar models like the Glock, S+W M&P and Springfield XD, for example. Among those three, accuracy, reliability and overall quality are pretty equal so the choice falls to which one feels best in your hand, whether you shoot one of them more accurately and yes, even which one you like the looks of the best. (YES. Looks count, too!)

There's nothing "wrong" with your current gun. The 220 has a long and well-deserved reputation for accuracy, ruggedness and reliability. It's in a popular, proven and versatile caliber. And you've already said it's never given you any issues and you shoot it very well. Maybe "you're just not that into it". There's no problem with that. "To each his own!" I'd second the suggestion you try to get a 1911 you like - if you can - before getting rid of the Sig. When you have both, decide which one you like better and if you can only afford to kep one you'll know which one to sell.

Another idea would be to put some money into improving how you feel about your Sig. Maybe trim the profile some with a different set of thinner grips and look into re-finishing.

 

[mgmorden]

I know this is a terrible question to say to anyone in the mood for a new gun, but truthfully, I'd keep the SIG. You've already said it works well and you can shoot it well. Why roll the dice on a new one that may not work right or you may not shoot well? (And believe me, despite what your buddy says, there are certainly some guns that are more reliable or accurate than others).

More guns is good, but IMHO, you should always have a gun in each area of need (ie, defense, hunting if you do that, competitions shooting if you do that, etc) that is your fall back. You don't get rid of it, and you don't fiddle with the setup. Shoot it all you want - but don't mess with it. Let it keep that status until some other gun takes it's place as your "go to" gun (and if your "go to" gun changes too often, you're doing something wrong ).

IMHO, if you really want something new, go the lawaway route. Pay a little at a time. Or just save. You'd be surprised what you can afford if you can wait. Think you can set aside $75 per month? Do that for a little over a year or so (not really that long) and you can get yourself a S&W 1911. Do it for 2 years and you can have a Les Baer.

 

[Ala Dan]

Att: Mr. bassplayer-

U already own one of the finest .45's currently on American soil; and its
concealment should not be a problem, IF the correct holster is chosen. I
am not talking a'bout the Kydex type holsters either; but rather a good,
quality leather rig from one of the major manufactuer'ers out there. Like
a nice leather rig from Bianchi, Safariland, Don Hume, Galco, DeSantis,
or many others. I would opt for an IWB, with two button down straps
that loop on the outside of your belt; and has the F.B.I. tilt~! There is
absolutely NO need to get shed of your SIG .45 caliber P220~!

Like you mentioned, if you trade with a FFL; then you are going too take
a big $$$$$ hit~! SIGARMS in New Hampshire has a habit of "flooding
the market" with "CPO" guns that have been refurbished. With that in
mind, you can expect too get a high $$$ value of 'bout $350-400; and
that is with box and doc's~!

 

[bruzer]

You want opinions so here is mine.

KEEP THE SIG!!! I believe your friend has made you think about things differently. That is good. Now my opinion on your wanting a new gun. BE PATIENT!!! Start setting aside a little money every month, faithfully. Realize the more you save the quicker you will have the money for a new gun. This might take a year, two, three. I realize that this day and age nobody seems to want or be able to wait. But, this gives you time to feel, shoot and study the different platforms of pistols. Your buddy has a Glock so see if he will let you shoot the Glock. After some time and saving you will make a much better decision. I believe if you sell or trade the Sig, you will kick yourself for it in the future. So save the money, be patient and get well informed for your next gun purchase.
Mike