racky
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i just bought a new 700 tactical. it seems to fire out of battery. please watch the video and tell me if it's normal. thanks guys.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gBygh6Oo7ac
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gBygh6Oo7ac
*HELP* R700 fires out of battery. VIDEO!!!
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Jim Watson
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It doesn't fire out of battery. It goes "click" out of battery. The energy required to cam the bolt handle the rest of the way closed will probably keep it from firing with the bolt partly open.
racky
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of course i wouldn't fire the rifle when it isn't all the way locked in. i just wanted to make sure as i've never had a bolt gun before. i'm an overly safe guy so i was concerned about the bolt flying back into my face.
Snowdog said:
The bolt lugs are fully engaged even with the bolt handle horizontal to the action. Also, the firing pin is pinned directly to the cocking piece so unless the bolt is closed all the way, how is the firing pin going to move forward enough to strike the primer? When you dry fire with the bolt only partially closed, the cocking piece is engaging the cam on the bolt and rotating the bolt closed.
The mainspring energy is transferred to rotational energy, but I've put a primed empty case in the chamber and dropped the bolt as shown in the video and not fired the primer, nor even made a dent in it.
That's a common way of uncocking many bolt actions, is to hold the bolt handle at the top of the stroke and pull the trigger, letting the handle down slowly. No intellegent person would knowingly do it with a loaded cartridge in the chamber, however.
I'm not sure whether they still do it or not, but Ruger 44 mag rifles used to fire before being fully locked up. I saw two of them that were blown apart because when handloading, someone didn't fully size the cases or seat bullets deeply enough. (Ruger didn't stand behind their rifles because reloaded ammunition was used.)
I've also tried firing empty primed shells in Remington Semi-Autos out of battery and they would NOT fire.
Some blow-back semi-autos will fire out of battery, causing cases to rupture and sometimes blow extractors out of the bolt.
That's a common way of uncocking many bolt actions, is to hold the bolt handle at the top of the stroke and pull the trigger, letting the handle down slowly. No intellegent person would knowingly do it with a loaded cartridge in the chamber, however.
I'm not sure whether they still do it or not, but Ruger 44 mag rifles used to fire before being fully locked up. I saw two of them that were blown apart because when handloading, someone didn't fully size the cases or seat bullets deeply enough. (Ruger didn't stand behind their rifles because reloaded ammunition was used.)
I've also tried firing empty primed shells in Remington Semi-Autos out of battery and they would NOT fire.
Some blow-back semi-autos will fire out of battery, causing cases to rupture and sometimes blow extractors out of the bolt.
nwilliams
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That's normal, do not worry.
As mentioned earlier however it's probably not the way you want to shoot it but what you're demonstrating in the video is what it's suppose to do.
Always good to check if you are unsure.
As mentioned earlier however it's probably not the way you want to shoot it but what you're demonstrating in the video is what it's suppose to do.
Always good to check if you are unsure.
courtgreene
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I tried it with a vz24 last night... did the same thing. I agree that it's very wise to check if you have a question about things like that
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