Skylerbone
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Well if you're me you don't use the safety. If you're not familiar with how it works I don't recommend any modification save a stronger thumb.
Help Wanted 30.06 rifle remington failure
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Skylerbone
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So you find them all smooth as silk when manipulated? Postings like yours truly get under my skin. We both know info like that doesn't belong online for every guy with a Dremel to play with and yet you post the challenge anyway. Not very High Road. Your ruse isn't worthy of a reply save see your local gun smith. Aren't we all clever.
Vern Humphrey
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I haven't looked at a Cooper since he donated to Obama and then lied about it.
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Skylerbone
Wow,
You imagined that I issued you a challenge? You imagined that I somehow implied that all M-70's have "silky smooth" safeties? I am somehow being un high road?
All that from "alrighty then" as in over and out, no need to continue, message received and understood? That's a pretty big leap there guy.
Tim the student
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Fair enough, but the guy is dead now. How do you feel about Rugers?
ETA: Actually, I recall hearing that he had passed. I'm not 100% sure that he is dead, but I am sure that the board asked him to step down, and he did. AFIK, he doesn't have anything to do with the company now. If he does, I'd like to know about it.
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Coal Dragger
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Cooper Arms is no longer owned (or even has anything to do with) Dan Cooper anymore. The guy who owns Wilson Arms bought the whole company. So there is no need to boycott the company's products, and all you accomplish by doing so is ruling out some very nice rifles that are 100% made in the USA by US workers.
The new man in charge of Cooper Firearms is also the President of Wilson Arms, Hugo Vivero. At least that is the name on the letter they sent me when I bought my Model 52 Jackson Hunter.
While the rifle had an initial issue with a manufacturing defect that I kvetched about, Cooper stood behind it and fixed the rifle within reasonable turn around time.
The rifle itself is the first one I have ever owned that right out of the box shot the first ammunition I could cram into the magazine into well under 1" for five shots at 100 yards after sight in. Just a bit over .7" to be exact, and the first 3 went into .6" on the nose. That was with Nosler Custom 140gr Accubonds in .280 Ackley Improved.
Frankly I have no doubt it will do a true 1/2 MOA with match ammo as Cooper states it will, I am a bit surprised to find it will get really close to that with a thick jacketed bonded core hunting bullet. I haven't even had a long enough break in the weather to work up hand loads yet, but given how much it likes 140gr Accubonds I am sure that with a little tweaking I can get a load down to or under .5" at 100 yards. I can probably use the 140gr Accubond on just about anything I am likely to hunt anytime in the foreseeable future, so maybe I just lucked out and got a rifle that really likes a tough versatile bullet and I didn't have to spend a lot of time searching for it.
A friend of mine bought a Cooper M52 in .280AI about a week or two after I bought mine (he claims I made him do it..) and it also shoots 140gr Accubonds very well. He has a bit more free time than I do, and worked up a load with some 160gr Partitions, and they shot about the same as the Accubonds albeit with a different point of impact. We'll see how mine does with the 160gr bullets tomorrow if the weather calms down a bit, I have two series of loads worked up in 160gr Accubonds, and 160gr Partitions. I am hopeful that like my buddy's Cooper, mine is consistently accurate with a variety of bullet styles and weights.
The new man in charge of Cooper Firearms is also the President of Wilson Arms, Hugo Vivero. At least that is the name on the letter they sent me when I bought my Model 52 Jackson Hunter.
While the rifle had an initial issue with a manufacturing defect that I kvetched about, Cooper stood behind it and fixed the rifle within reasonable turn around time.
The rifle itself is the first one I have ever owned that right out of the box shot the first ammunition I could cram into the magazine into well under 1" for five shots at 100 yards after sight in. Just a bit over .7" to be exact, and the first 3 went into .6" on the nose. That was with Nosler Custom 140gr Accubonds in .280 Ackley Improved.
Frankly I have no doubt it will do a true 1/2 MOA with match ammo as Cooper states it will, I am a bit surprised to find it will get really close to that with a thick jacketed bonded core hunting bullet. I haven't even had a long enough break in the weather to work up hand loads yet, but given how much it likes 140gr Accubonds I am sure that with a little tweaking I can get a load down to or under .5" at 100 yards. I can probably use the 140gr Accubond on just about anything I am likely to hunt anytime in the foreseeable future, so maybe I just lucked out and got a rifle that really likes a tough versatile bullet and I didn't have to spend a lot of time searching for it.
A friend of mine bought a Cooper M52 in .280AI about a week or two after I bought mine (he claims I made him do it..) and it also shoots 140gr Accubonds very well. He has a bit more free time than I do, and worked up a load with some 160gr Partitions, and they shot about the same as the Accubonds albeit with a different point of impact. We'll see how mine does with the 160gr bullets tomorrow if the weather calms down a bit, I have two series of loads worked up in 160gr Accubonds, and 160gr Partitions. I am hopeful that like my buddy's Cooper, mine is consistently accurate with a variety of bullet styles and weights.
There are 2 brands of rifles that I have liked since my early days of shooting. They are Remington and Winchester. To be honest I think the Winchesters are nicer then the Remingtons.
I have a model 70 Stealth in .308 that is amazingly accurate, from the first time I shot it. Also had a 70XTR in 7mm that shot excellent once I had some bedding work done. The model 70's have 3 position safetys. In all honesty I'd rather have a Winchester then Remington.
Third choice for me would be a Savage. I've owned 2 Savage rifles. One was very accurate, the second one not so much. The first rifle a 10fp in .223 had feeding issues. There was a 30% chance that the next round would not enter the chamber. I've talked to others that said their Savage rifle had feeding issues also.
My second Savage was a Stainless 12VSS with Choate stock. Expensive rifle in .22-250. No matter what I did it would string the shots vertically like the right side of a letter "V".
I have a model 70 Stealth in .308 that is amazingly accurate, from the first time I shot it. Also had a 70XTR in 7mm that shot excellent once I had some bedding work done. The model 70's have 3 position safetys. In all honesty I'd rather have a Winchester then Remington.
Third choice for me would be a Savage. I've owned 2 Savage rifles. One was very accurate, the second one not so much. The first rifle a 10fp in .223 had feeding issues. There was a 30% chance that the next round would not enter the chamber. I've talked to others that said their Savage rifle had feeding issues also.
My second Savage was a Stainless 12VSS with Choate stock. Expensive rifle in .22-250. No matter what I did it would string the shots vertically like the right side of a letter "V".
Leaky Waders
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I'm interested to know about the coopers and dakotas...aren't they just a very well put together remington action - safety and all? Or are they something else?
Personally I like the new winchester model 70's and have recently purchased a weatherby mark v, but it came after I deployed so I haven't even got to touch it yet let alone scope it.
Personally I like the new winchester model 70's and have recently purchased a weatherby mark v, but it came after I deployed so I haven't even got to touch it yet let alone scope it.
rbernie
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Upon review, I have concluded that all the bickering over the Remington issue is off topic for this thread. The OP didn't ask for anyone's opinion of the problem. The OP asked for alternatives to the Remington.
Accordingly, I have deleted the off topic content (including my own past submissions). Let's try to keep this on topic.
Accordingly, I have deleted the off topic content (including my own past submissions). Let's try to keep this on topic.
pacpiper
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Surprised nobody mentioned the Marlin XL7 30-06 so I guess I'll throw it out there.
Take the money you'll save and upgrade your scope
Take the money you'll save and upgrade your scope
Skylerbone
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Post #42, Marlin XL7 so your's is a +1
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