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Help with a 1917..or a Model 30

Discussion in 'Firearms Research' started by Skinsanity, Feb 12, 2011.

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  1. Skinsanity

    Skinsanity Member

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    Hi guys...

    I dont often run into a rifle I can Identify but I am stumped on this one...

    At first glance it appears to be a sporterized remington 1917...Its marked "U.S. Model of 1917, Remington, XXXXXX" It does have bomb with flames and eagle proof marks, along with several others...It has a Monte carlo style walnut stock, and the magazine has not been cut down to run straight...

    However...The bolt does cock on opening...Which from what I understand was not introduced until after remington started marketing commercially as the "Model 30"... But the rifle is not marked "Model 30" anywhere..

    I know that it is chambered in .30-06, but that is not marked either..

    Any help would be appreciated
     
  2. bubba15301

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    conversion kit on the bolt
     
  3. Sunray

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    Sounds like a Pattern 17 with a commercial stock and the conversion kit. Not all commercial stocks required altering the mag. Several companies made 'drop in' stocks. Bishop and Fajen, for example.
     
  4. Jim K

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    It is a "sporterized" Model 1917; Model 30's did not have those markings.

    "Cock on opening" kits were sold for many years; essentially, they convert the rifle to fire off the firing pin retraction notch in the bolt. That necessitates a stronger firing pin spring but they generally work OK and get away from the "cock on closing" that Americans generally didn't like.

    Jim
     
  5. Skinsanity

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    Dang, thats what I was afraid of guys....

    I would rather have an original p17 or a remington Model 30..

    Dont like Bubba guns, although this one they did a good job..but the word "sporterized" hurts my ears...oh well...

    I still would have bought it for the 100 bucks I have into it, so I guess I shouldnt be too disapointed
     
  6. Jim K

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    From one point of view, a Model 30 was nothing but a factory sporterized Model 1917. Remington never really "made" any Model 30's or 720's; they were all made from parts leftover after WWI Model 1917 production. They rather cleverly disguised the source by various tricks, but except for non-.30 barrels, sights and stocks, the guns were Model 1917's.

    Jim
     
  7. velocette

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    Don't knock the 1917 Enfield that has been sporterized. I have one that I bought already bubba'ed & went on to work it into a nice rifle.
    It has the GI barrel still (was re-barrelled way long time ago with GI barrel) and it shoots right at 1" groups @ 100 yds with no load development (yet).
    I realize that I spent too much money on a rifle but I now have an accurate, strong rifle that is fitted to me and made MY way.
    Controlled feed a-la Mauser, three way safety, cock on opening, Dayton Traister trigger, full floated, glass bedded, walnut stock.
    Picture is before Cera Cote finishing & scope mounting.

    Roger

    Enfield001.jpg
     
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