Henry Rollins on guns and "assault weapons"

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I was listening to an interview with Henry Rollins and here is what he had to say on guns:

"Well, I think you should have a gun in your house if you want to defend your family. I don't think any family - you or me - needs an assault weapon. If I was a policeman in your town, and I know I'm going up against people with bullets that can go through my door, through my body and the body of my partner, and I'm not given ceramic-plated body armor that stops an AK-47 round, I've got a real problem with that. And I don't think any citizen...what are you going to shoot with a gun? An intruder? Yourself...on a bad day? Or maybe, a deer. You're not shooting Al Qaeda. So you don't need an AK-47.

A shotgun, a handgun - fantastic. An assault weapon..."

The host says: "But see once you start restricting, they can restrict it all. But throughout history, tyrants have sought to disarm their people."

Henry Rollins: "Yeah, and I don't think you'd ever be able to disarm America, I just think it can be delicately regulated to where even Charlton Heston's ghost would be satisfied. I just don't think Americans need assault weapons."

Full interview here (gun portion begins at 4:50.)

Henry! What are you thinking? Do you even know what you're talking about? Is he making these statements out of pure ignorance or does he genuinely believe the nonsense that he's spouting off? Henry, are you aware that there are plenty of readily available rifle rounds, for the hunting rifles that you say you approve of, that can go through your door, and go through body armor? Are you aware that the AK-47's round is much weaker than most regular deer hunting cartridges? Are you aware that hardly ANY crimes are actually committed with these so-called "assault weapons?"

More troubling though is the fact that he seems to think that we don't "need" "assault weapons" because we're "not fighting Al Qaeda" and he only thinks that home defense from criminals, and hunting, are the only acceptable uses for a weapon. Doesn't he have any concept of guerrilla warfare? How can he call himself a punk rocker and not understand that? This is a guy that has "SEARCH AND DESTROY" tattooed across his back but he really has that much of a defeatist attitude about fighting against oppression? He really doesn't think that Americans might need to fight an organized enemy - foreign OR domestic - and he doesn't think that they should be allowed to have the capability to do so - and yet he continues to present himself as a 100% anti-authority, anti-government, anti-oppression, pro-freedom "punk rocker?"

RIGHT. Henry, you are not a punk rocker with that kind of attitude. Sorry, all your tattoos and your badass persona are nothing but hype if you honestly believe what you do. It seems that for all his talk about fighting the government, fighting "the man," and individual freedom, in the end, he's a gigantic fraud.

I'm pretty disappointed.
 
I'm pretty disappointed.

Someday I want to see an interview with a celebrity that says "why are you asking me about guns and politics, I'm a celebrity who cares what I think of that stuff, let's talk about my latest movie/album/play/whatever."

THAT will be a celebrity I can respect.
 
If he's now stating that he thinks people have the right to defend themselves with a firearm, then it shows that he's made a huge change in his beliefs regarding guns.

As I understand it, he used to be an out-and-out prohibitionist owing to having once seen a friend of his murdered with a firearm.
 
Someday I want to see an interview with a celebrity that says "why are you asking me about guns and politics, I'm a celebrity who cares what I think of that stuff, let's talk about my latest movie/album/play/whatever."

THAT will be a celebrity I can respect.

If you were being interviewed for whatever reason, and you were asked about your opinions on something - would you turn around and say "i'm just an ordinary guy - what I think doesn't matter". No - of course not. These people are actually people with opinions.
In the case of Henry Rollins - he's put his opinions to use to writing books, and actually becoming somewhat of a social/political talking head in certain circles. He's actually a pretty bright guy. He does however get it wrong from time to time - as do all of us.
 
Who the hell is Henry Rollins?

I know, I know....Google. I guess I just don't care enough about celebrities to open a new tab....

He was the lead singer of Black Flag for some years. Long time ago.
 
I've actually met Rollins a couple of times, and yes, he's changed views on a lot of things. He's also trashed many celebrities he later worked with, and made jokes about people he later interviewed. He's really Leno with a tattoo.

The reason I still like him, is he's really still willing to think about things, and not just accept what he's told. He will change his mind because he's open minded, he's willing to learn. At least, he would rather look open-minded than stoop to the level of the people he criticizes. I was at a show of his in SLC in 1998, and he asked us, "Are you guys the *******s who keep voting for Orrin Hatch?" I was the only guy in the place who yelled; "YES!" I got a few boos, but he yelled at them, he said, "At least this guy will admit it, I know he's not the only one here."

I talked to him after the show for a minute, I asked him if Pacino was really that tough, throwing him around like that in "Heat", when he has eight inches and probably 80 lbs on him, he kind of laughed and dodged the question, he said Pacino doesn't mess around with any role, he pushed hard.
 
I liked his intro to Too Much Coffee Man's Parade of Tirade.

That's pretty much it.
 
Last I heard of Henry Rollins' thoughts on guns was that they were for suckers and that real men solved their problems with their fists, to paraphrase. This is an improvement.
 
Last I heard of Henry Rollins' thoughts on guns was that they were for suckers and that real men solved their problems with their fists, to paraphrase.

That actually sounds about right. He's a very physical full-contact kind of person.
 
Whenever celebrities start talking about politics or rights I reach for the remote. They are about as qualified to discuss those things as I am to discuss quantum physics. If they were actually running for public office I'd care what their views were. Otherwise shut up and stick to what you are good at.
 
Yep, he used to be a staunch gun grabber.

He's come a long way, at this rate he'll be DEMANDING an end to the NFA and nation wide Vermont/Alaska style CCW by the early 2020s



I've always found it interesting how people that profess to be such staunch individualists fall prey to the notion that its a good idea for the government to maintain a monopoly on the use of lethal force.
 
I don't much care. IMHO his music sucks and his comedy is even worse.

Last I heard of Henry Rollins' thoughts on guns was that they were for suckers and that real men solved their problems with their fists, to paraphrase.

Real men solve their problems with words. If words fail I have a brain that is intelligent enough to use tools to defuse the problem in an appropriate manner.
 
Singer for Black Flag? What, did he sing a jingle on a pesticide commercial or something?
Why is he an expert on the subject of guns?
 
rollins is a bitter old punk who's painfully aware of his own irrelevance. he likes to whine and complain about how today's artists didn't have it as tough as him, as if having to push your broken down van around town somehow makes your art more legitimate. he's a "musician"; who cares what he thinks?
 
The problem is, nobody knows that he doesn't know what he's talking about.

The same could be said for Bill O'Rielly, Keith Olberman, Sean Hannity, Bill Mahr, Rush, etc etc etc.

He's got an opinion. Somehow some people think his opinion is interesting/worthwhile to listen to.

Some people smoke crack too. What are ya gonna do?
 
Last I heard of Henry Rollins' thoughts on guns was that they were for suckers and that real men solved their problems with their fists, to paraphrase. This is an improvement.

Of course, Rollins would probably be the first to admit that there are too many suckers out there...
 
I don't think I really care what Henry Rollins thinks about guns.

It's about as relevant as what Paris Hilton thinks about them.

I guess if he were my congressman etc. I might be concerned.
 
I disagree that Henry Rollins is irrelevant - he is quite respected by a lot of impressionable and young people. He has become sort of a mainstream punk-rock idol. That concept is contradictory on a few different levels, as punk rock is "supposed" to be outside of the mainstream, and it's "supposed" to be against the idea of idols. But, regardless, it's a fact that a lot of people idolize Rollins, not as a musician but as a figure of wisdom, a sort of pundit. Because of this, he has a great deal of influence on what a lot of his fans think. So if he were to come out in support of our cause, it would be a tremendous benefit to us.

People who think Rollins is not relevant are the same kind of people who say that gun errors in movies shouldn't matter because they're "just entertainment" and not real life. This mentality frustrates me very much because it fails to take into account the very important and indisputable fact that entertainment exerts a tremendous psychological force upon people. MUCH more so that any other form of media, like the news. People of all ages spend way, WAY more time watching television and listening to music than they do watching the news or researching things on the Internet or in any other way. Entertainment, whether it is television, film, sports, or music, is like food and water to people in America. It influences the way that we think and the way that we ACT in a quantity that is unequaled by anything else. We as a culture are so saturated in popular entertainment that it actually becomes a form of neurological programming, affecting what we wear, what we think, what we buy, who we vote for, et cetera.

There are hundreds of scholarly books and studies on this topic - there are whole college majors dedicated to researching it...what is "communication and culture?" It's by and large the study of how entertainment affects people. Anyone who discounts the impact of pop culture is totally blind. Barack Obama is our president because he was marketable as a pop culture icon, and his opponent was not.

People make fun of Paris Hilton but at the end of the day SHE is the one that gets the last laugh because SHE has every eye in America glued to her.

I'm willing to bet that more people know who Paris Hilton is than know who their own state senators and congressmen are. Like it or not, this is just how it is. Celebrities and pop culture MATTER VERY MUCH. If we can get our cause in the pop culture and get a spokesman for it who is as well-liked as Henry Rollins is, we would be much closer to achieving our goals.
 
The thing about Rollins is, if we could eventually get him on our side he'd be a powerful voice ... every bit as powerful as Nugent ... even more powerful at reaching those young dumb kids that are supposedly our future.


It's about as relevant as what Paris Hilton thinks about them.
If Paris Hilton came out tomorrow in favor of concealed carry or opposed to an assault weapon ban (and she was half as articulate as Rollins) more damage would be done to the gun control movement than putting Ted Nugent on the supreme court.
 
I don't believe you should hold your breath for Paris Hilton to endorse guns.

As for the thought that celebrities influence people beyond their ability to think on their own, that's a whole different set of problems.

I'm not making fun of either Henry or Paris. I simply said I don't care what they think.
 
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