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i don't think there is a gun that gets more crap then the Hi-points, there are many videos on you tube. they do all kinds of this to them that no one would do to there own gun. yet most of these guns continue to work and fire reliably, even after being on fir, ran over, dropped of building. there was even a video were a guy put over 1000 round true a 9mm with out one miss fire. then the man said he would never trust the gun for protection.

i think they are chea, ugly, big but they work, maybe if they said glock on them people would like them.
 
A Hi Point is not something I would ever purchase especially considering the amount of nice pistols under $400 these days but it's your money. I would much rather spend a couple hundred extra for something like an M&P .45. 1.0 or 2.0 or maybe even a Shield if CCW is a possibility if that could be worked into the budget. As always try to do some live fire of whatever you are considering to see of it works for you.
 
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I have a few friends with the carbines which seem to work just fine. I have one friend that's gone through a few of the handguns and they seem to go bang every time but the triggers are horrible so be aware of that.
 
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Never owned one. Never owned a Chevy Cavalier or dated a crack whore either...
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The OP is asking for guidance. How on earth is this helpful? Buying a Hi Point is comparable to dating a crack whore?

OP, I bought a Hi Point 40 carbine a few years back as it was at a price to low to pass up. And no, I've never dated a crack whore. We use it as a range toy from time to time and it's never malfunctioned. Of course you'd be better off with other, more expensive guns, but if that's what your budget allows, their reputation is that they're inexpensive guns that work.
 
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Feelings on getting a Hi-Point 45acp as a entry gun into 45acp, and as a "toolbox gun".
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Hope you have a big tool box;)
Your money so get what you want. If you shoot it very much at all you will soon want something better so what not start out with just that?
 
I have one of their 9mm carbines. It goes bang every time. If the OP wants one, why not? I have heard that the pistols are reliable. (Later addition: Listen to the Gunny; he definitely knows what he's talking about.)

I will mention that I got a Ruger P-series 45acp (I think it was the P90) for a $149 off of Gunbroker in the past year or so. Buying a Hi-Point would be quicker and easier, but if someone were to haunt Gunbroker for a month or two they could probably get a "higher quality" 45acp pistol for the same money or not much more.

I would definitely encourage anyone who is interested in the 45acp cartridge to pursue it. It isn't a high-pressure cartridge, so in the full-sized pistols I'm accustomed to shooting it from, the recoil doesn't seem any sharper than a 9mm to me. And it makes such nice big holes in things! :)

Here is the Ruger. I'm 99% sure it was $150 or so, though admittedly I also had to pay shipping, and sometimes my buddy at the LGS will actually charge me an FFL fee. IIRC, it was a police trade-in (most of my best deals seem to be). It's a little bit scratched up, but like most PTI's doesn't seem to have been fired much.
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Like others have said, they are inexpensive and ugly, but they work. If you get one people will poke fun at you and some will be rude. But then owning a Hi-Point JHP 45 Auto is like dating an ugly fat girl, she may cook good, but people will still pick on you.
The Hi-Point Model JHP 45 Auto is the largest handgun that Hi-Point makes. It is unbalanced, very top heavy, but has mild felt recoil. The magazine is the biggest problem. They are made of thin sheet metal and the feed lips can get damaged easily. The grips are not polymer, they are just cheap plastic. If you drop the gun there’s a good chance that the grips will crack or break. If the right grip panel breaks, you may not be able to fire the gun. The right panel holds the trigger bar in place. The sights are also made of cheap plastic and will break or deform if dropped.
I do get to shoot a lot of guns in my line of work and the Hi-Points do show up. I had to shoot one of the C-9s just the other day. I will say this. The only guns that I have ever had to fire that the rifling was shot out of have been Hi-Points. The recovered bullets looked like they had been scrubbed with 80 grit sandpaper.
But over the last six years I have gotten just over 100 Hi-Points come across my desk. Out of all those there was only two that I was not able to fire. One was missing parts and the other was damaged, I think it had been thrown from a moving vehicle at a high rate of speed.

Now here is the best thing about a Hi-Point. It has a lifetime warranty. You just returned it to the factory and they will repair or replace it at no charge.
 
GunnyUSMC said:
Like others have said, they are inexpensive and ugly, but they work. If you get one people will poke fun at you and some will be rude. But then owning a Hi-Point JHP 45 Auto is like dating an ugly fat girl, she may cook good, but people will still pick on you.
The Hi-Point Model JHP 45 Auto is the largest handgun that Hi-Point makes. It is unbalanced, very top heavy, but has mild felt recoil. The magazine is the biggest problem. They are made of thin sheet metal and the feed lips can get damaged easily. The grips are not polymer, they are just cheap plastic. If you drop the gun there’s a good chance that the grips will crack or break. If the right grip panel breaks, you may not be able to fire the gun. The right panel holds the trigger bar in place. The sights are also made of cheap plastic and will break or deform if dropped.
I do get to shoot a lot of guns in my line of work and the Hi-Points do show up. I had to shoot one of the C-9s just the other day. I will say this. The only guns that I have ever had to fire that the rifling was shot out of have been Hi-Points. The recovered bullets looked like they had been scrubbed with 80 grit sandpaper.
But over the last six years I have gotten just over 100 Hi-Points come across my desk. Out of all those there was only two that I was not able to fire. One was missing parts and the other was damaged, I think it had been thrown from a moving vehicle at a high rate of speed.

Now here is the best thing about a Hi-Point. It has a lifetime warranty. You just returned it to the factory and they will repair or replace it at no charge.
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That’s the most useful Hi-Point pistol review I’ve ever seen!
 
As I've said on here before, I gave 200 bucks for a hi- point 9mm carbine and a 45 pistol (combined not each) many years ago at a pawn shop/ gun store that was going under. If you look back through my posts you can see pictures of my sigs, hk usp(s), glocks, berettas, colts, etc. The tightest groups I ever shot with a non-competition auto were with my p97 and my hi-point. The p97 I've shot a ton. The hi-point I only fired a few mags through so I won't speak to reliability but it's darn accurate. It's a fixed barrel so the accuracy is nearly guaranteed. Its slow, top heavy (although not much more than my mk23 or usp), ugly (but not much more than glock) the capacity sucks (but no worse than a 1911) and the trigger is crap (but no worse than the da pull of the 226/92 or 96/usp). So basically they took the worst elements of the best guns and made a mediocre cheap gun. The are a hundred better choices, and currently the prices aren't gar enough apart. For a low enough price I'd buy a couple more used but it would have to be in the 50 dollar range. Prices are just too low on the better options right now.

That said, there isn't a snowball's chance in hell that ive give 200ish (or 150 even) dollars for a new hi- point when I can get trade in glocks for 299 with night sights. I've seen m&p 45s for 200 online in good condition at kings.
 
I was offered a .40 S&W that seemed to be NIB for $75, and snagged it. Much as we like to make fun of them it works, and keeps working. Yes, it's everything others have said... but it goes bang when I pull the trigger and the bullets go where I aim them. It's actually kinda' a hoot to shoot... especially when I show my targets to the gun snobs! That being said I would not pay the $199 MSRP- too many better options can be found for under $300. But for $75-100? I just might... again.
 
I have found my 995TS to be terrific....I will not have a gun whose reliability is even a remote question....I carry a SIG and XDM, and the Hi Point is, at minimum, equally reliable.... It really caught my attention when, at 50 yards, I was shooting multiple rounds in the same hole....with iron sights. Buy the gun....you won't be disappointed !!
 
The High Points seem to be decent reliable handguns, but as others have stated there are used and new handguns that are close in price and better quality guns. I was looking at the Rock Island Armory 38 spl's but a PhD had a beaten up S&W M10 for almost the same price.

Although not a 45, you can get Ruger Security 9's new for under $300.

High Point Carbines are another story. I really like the 10mm, even though I have no really need to have one.
 
They work are fairly cheap and are reliable with a excellent warranty. They also are low capacity heavy and a pain to field strip for a extra 100 there are many options that are nicer but not necessarily better. Also I believe you can mod 1911 mags to work
 
TomJ said:
The OP is asking for guidance. How on earth is this helpful? Buying a Hi Point is comparable to dating a crack whore?
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It wasn't mean't to be helpful. It was mean't to be funny. And it was.

But on the other hand, my analogy was helpful, and spot on. A crack whore is a woman that functions as a woman, but is quite difficult to look at and there are much better options out there for not much more effort.

Same as the Hi-point. It is one firearm I simply refuse to own no matter the price.
 
I don't think there is a gun made that I'd refuse to own regardless of price. Especially a functional one. I'd take a lorcin/ Jennings Bryco etc, although i don't feel they are worth depending on but wouldn't pay much over 20 bucks for one. The hi- point I'd rank well above those.
Maybe I'm kind of like Jay Leno is with cars, he has the best of the best, but can still be seen occasionally driving a festiva. Just an enjoyment and fascination with the evolution (sometimes devolution) and designs
 
If you just want the cheapest .45 that's any good, the Hi Point is fine for that. If you don't mind spending about $200 more, you get to step up to Kahr and S&W Shield territory and for about $80 more than that, you're in full size polymer .45 territory.

I was going to get a Hi Point, but have decided a threaded M&P .45 is more worth my money. Reloading a Hi Point is cumbersome task at times and the magazines are a definite weak spot. After renting and shooting a .40 Hi Point a couple years ago, I came to the conclusion that they are a gun you either make damn sure you put a fresh mag in so you the slide doesn't lock back on the last round or when it does, you run to a safer location because you do not want to trust your life on racking that slide.
 
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They work and are reliable. That's about it. Bail bondsman friend carries one for work. We shot the snot out of that thing before he started carrying it. It never malfunctioned once in over 1000 rounds, and was decently accurate.
 
The local shop had new hi point 45s for $129. I have other 45s but I wanted to try one out to see what all the hype was about. I went by there to pick one up. I checked them out but went home empty handed. The gun was just plain clunky. The recoil spring was extremely heavy and I was having trouble racking the slide correctly. The trigger pull and safety weren't much better. Yes they maybe are reliable but I agree with other posters. If you can, save up and buy a nicer gun.
 
Now, this is a second hand story so take it with a grain of salt:

When my Dad was doing his certification for his concealed carry permit, there was a kid in his class with a hi-point. Not sure what kind, but this kid could not get through a single target without some sort of malfunction.

Everybody else I've talked to says that hi-points are reliable, so I don't know if this guy had a bad magazine, was using ammo he hadn't tested or what.

Either way, it's your money, and I see no problem with getting a cheap but reliable gun to keep in a toolbox. I've considered getting one of their PCCs to keep in my vehicle. I'd be a lot less upset if somebody stole a hi point carbine than if they stole my AR or any other one of my guns which I care about.
 
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