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Hi point guns

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by Younggunner, Sep 6, 2009.

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  1. Younggunner

    Younggunner Member

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    Are these guns of great quality or not? I see that they are ugly but are they also functional? I'd like to hear from some hi point owners about the carbines and pistols.
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  2. zombienerd

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    I don't own one, but I've never heard a bad word except that they're ugly.

    Lifetime warranty, even if you bought it used.

    Accurate enough for a truck gun/back up/toss around gun.

    Can't beat the price.
     
  3. kmcintosh78

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    I love my 9mm Hi Point Carbine. The pistols are made in an in-expensive manner. The barrel is not floated, but mounted to the base of the gun. I don't like it, but from what I am told, they go boom every time, are not expensive and are as accurate as the shooter.

    Check out the Hi Point Forums.

    http://www.hipointfirearmsforums.com

    www.hipointtalk.com

    Enjoy.
     
  4. rondog

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    Oh man, this has been beat to death ad infinitum. Go to ANY gun forum and do a search, you'll find the same info. Lovers and haters. Pistols are great, pistols suck. Pistols fail and are unreliable, pistols are very reliable and very accurate. All agree the pistols are too heavy to carry for CCW, and all agree they're ugly as sin.

    The carbines, generally have a very loyal following. I have a 995 and a 4095. Both are OUTSTANDING fun to shoot, very accurate and reliable. Also ugly as sin. I don't know that I'd want to carry one in combat, but I wouldn't hesitate to use one for home or self-defense use. Major complaint about the carbines is the 10-round only mags. And sometimes the mags need a little feed-lip tuning to run better.

    But ALL H-P guns are made in the USA, and all have a full life-time warranty, regardless of who owns it. There's been stories of brokens H-P's found in dumpsters, sent in for repair, and replaced with brand-new guns.

    Bottom line, they're fun weapons that won't break your bank account. Not very pretty, but if they break they're warrantied. I'd highly recommend a carbine.
     
  5. Deltaboy1984

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    I agree with Rondog use search.
     
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    Used a friend's in 9mm. It was big, impossible to carry, ugly as sin, but it went bang every time.
     
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  7. Mooseman

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    I have one of the 45 models, overall I like it.

    good: USA made, great warranty, reliable, inexpensive, decent sights

    Bad: Construction is a bit crude, very top heavy, low capacity for it size, difficult to conceal, grips are too smooth, mag release easy to hit accidentally for some folks, take down for detail cleaning is difficult, little aftermarket support.

    Ugly: pretty much everything about this gun:D

    After all is said and done I have no regrets about buying this gun and wouldn't hesitate to get another. I'm glad it's not my only gun though.
     
  8. conw

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    The Carbine is the only rifle I own, and fills the home-defense, fun/target/plinking, and woods gun roles great. It is dead reliable (way over 1000 rounds through it) and easy to shoot/operate, even for new shooters. It is really accurate to 50 yards, past which point wind can really disrupt accuracy...BUT you can still hit big targets out to maybe 100 consistently. I use a red dot sight because it's a bedside gun for me.

    I can see someone buying the handgun for a so-called truck gun, a survival kit gun, or just for the heck of it. But I doubt it would make a good carry gun for a number of reasons. Plus, for $100 more you could get a much nicer used handgun.

    With the rifle, you can't get anything comparable (except maybe the Sub2000 from Keltec, which doesn't feel as good to me) for under $500. With the handgun, better options are pretty closely priced.
     
  9. EHL

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    In a word: UGLY!:barf:

    But they have a great warranty!;)
     
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    Likse some have said, they are sort of ugly, very heavy, and to me they are not good CCL guns--that being said, I Have owned the C9, 995B, and CF 380 (2)--

    Sold the C9 cause I needed $150 (I paid $110), one CF380 got stolen from my truck, and still have the other 2. Besides the CF380 being expensive to shoot, and its the same gun virtually as the C9, I love it as a truck/boat gun-- the 99b is Planet of the Apes-ish, but it is a great shooter at 100yds and less...

    All went bang and had probably 3 issues ever in the 4 I had/have total.

    YMMV....

    They are ugly, but functional.
     
  11. Big_E

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    I don't own one yet, due to CA laws and sich. But I did have a chance to meet the owner of Hi Point and he is a great guy and will back up his product no matter what. Oh and picks up the check at dinner (unfortunately I didn't go)
     
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    I can't wait to get one! 9mm handgun and carbine. The only 9s I'll ever own.
     
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    I have owned a Hi-Point 9mm Carbine and I think they are well worth the money charged for them, and as far as I am concerned, they are more accurate, and more reliable than most would expect.

    I also owned a Beretta Storm carbine - I would rather have three of the Hi-Points .
     
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    Massive, heavy, ugly, reliable, cheap.

    Sums it up well. Hi-points are good vehicle/home defense pistols. I would never try to CC one due to it's sheer size and weight.

    You need to see one in person to understand how truly huge it is. I was reminded of how big they are once again when I saw a .45cal one at a gun&pawn last week. It made the govt 1911s look small in comparison (and I find those way too big for my tastes).

    I've shot a few, I think they're nice guns as far as performance go....they are straight shooters, I'll give em that.
     
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    Very refreshing!

    The only comments being made are by people who own or have first hand knowledge of thse pistols.

    Usually the people knocking them have no experience with them at all.


    My first center fire pistol was a Hi Point. A 9mm. It was capable of decent accuracy and 100% reliable.


    It was an ugly rascal, though.
     
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    To the original poster:

    Are you the same guy who was considering an M1 Carbine or Garand to round out your shotgun and bolt action .270? If so, I believe I suggested a HP Carbine in that thread for you, and I stand by that recommendation for a young shooter. The maintenance of the gun is really easy since nothing ever goes wrong with it, free warranty work for your entire life, easy cleaning...

    It will give you something you don't have (essentially a mid-range do-everything rifle) for cheap. Go for it. You can always get a 9mm handgun later to match it :)
     
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    I got mine for 50 bucks at a yard sale (JC .40). mine was made before adding any polymer so the thing is HEAVY but it is still the most reliable handgun I have. They make perfect home defense guns because they WILL go bang everytime you pull the trigger are only accurate to 15 feet (mine shoots pie plates up to that point after that your lucky to hit it 3 out of 10) but all in all I will never get rid of this gun because it was my first centerfire pistol and I absolutely love it
     
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    I own both the CF380 and the 9MM pistol. They are reasonably accurate reliable and not particularly pretty. You cant beat the price and guarantee. They are made in the US. I didn't know if I wanted to get a 9MM pistol so the most inexpensive was HI Point. Have a couple other 9MM'S now also but it makes a perfect truck gun. Whats not to like about this brand for the price? I mat even upgrade to a HI Point 45 for a truck gun.:D
     
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    I don't own but saw both a carbine and pistol in 9mm at the range. they went bang every time and the fella with the carbine ran 100 rounds through. He let me look over the carbine as I'm interested in one for a nephew to buy. a minus was the 10 rd mag and the rough appearance but it sure seems sturdy in design.
     
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    Something I just realized, it may be i realized it yesterday and the caffeine kick from the mountain dew is making me feel like it's news...I dunno.

    Either way, I think perhaps why these value guns perform so well is that the quality of firearms in general is reaching that point where we have the alloys, the production equipment, the processes and the engineering to produce very functional arms at a very low price. Thus the costs we are incurring in a higher priced firearm is due to fit, finish and features. There may be mechanical upgrades as well, but will those improvments matter at 30ft or less?

    At the end of the day....we need to realize there are firearms made for niche markets. Then also realize that while other devices will fit into that category, those devices may exceed what's required for the purpsoe. In other words, using a pricey premium 1911 model when an old Norinco would do the exact same job is kinda wasteful....the home defender on a budget would seek something that costs 1/4 the price and performs about as well in most cases. After all, not everyone can or should be expected to afford a $500 firearm.
     
  21. Younggunner

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    Thanks guys for the advice.and conwict yes I'm still the same guy.
     
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    Or it could be they use a simple blowback operation instead of fussing with all that fancy locked breech nonsense other pistols use just to jack up the price. There is a reason those slides have to be so heavy. :rolleyes:
     
  23. Justin

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    That's the entire point behing the hi-point guns. They're firearms made from the most inexpensive materials using the simplest operating system (straight blowback), and they come off an assembly line that's designed to save money. For instance, I seem to recall reading somewhere that the finish on the guns is baked on in an old oven, rather than something designed to do industrial-level heat treatment.
     
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    You don't really want your finish baking process to heat treat your metal. Paint baking ovens (and I own one) are hardly any different from household ovens, so good for them.

    I go back and forth with these things. I'm talking specifically about the handguns (don't know much about the rifles). If I was going to seal up guns in caches on public land or the like I think they would have some appeal. I'm not.

    If I was so broke that $150 for a .45ACP pistol was all I could afford... I would go to the ammo counter, realize that .45ACP is running $25 per 50 right now, and realize that I couldn't afford it after all. I would then go get myself a single-shot shotgun for $100ish because 12 or 20ga practice ammo is still running under $25/100 and that one gun would allow me home defense (not great, but better than nothing) and maybe food gathering too if I could make it out of the city and learn to hunt. I could actually take it shooting three times and still be out of pocket less than the Hi Point would cost me without any ammo.

    I don't know... as a glove box gun for a state that doesn't freak out about guns in cars... again, it's a maybe. But by the time I had 300 rounds through it, I would've paid more for the ammo than the gun. How much savings is that really?
     
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    I just had an epiphany about the Hi-Point: I look at Hi-Point as the Sten gun of handguns.

    Yeah, the Americans didn't have much use for the Sten (and there was prejudice against our own M-3 "Grease Gun"), but it was there, and it filled hands when necessary.
     
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